Over the years I've managed to acquire a 10" Hitachi sliding miter saw
(without laser) and a 12" Porter Cable non-sliding miter saw (with
dual laser). Both in excellent condition. I have limited space and
want to sell one of them. But I can't decide which to keep. I mainly
do hobby woodworking, and occasionally Pergo. I don't do
construction, and rarely need to cut a 2x12. Which would you keep?
Keep the slider. More versatile and is there when you need it (which
will occur immediately after you sell it). Will also do almost every
cut that the 12" non slider will do. Add to that the Hitachi is a
better machine than the Porter Cable and you have my vote.
I have a 10" SCMS, don't have a 12" CMS. Personally, I'd keep the
slider, but that best matches what I do. You should keep the one that
best matches what you do.
The 10" slider will cut wider, the 12" miter will cut deeper. What do
you do most off, wide cuts or deep cuts? Also, if you give up the wide
in favor of the deep, do you have a workable way to make the
infrequent wide cut? If you give up the deep in favor of the wide, do
you have a workable way to make the infrequent deep cut?
Answer those questions for your particular situation, and the choice
that's best for you will be obvious.
I'm not sure if you are attempting a gloat or a drive-by.
Most of us have no frame of reference for your dilemma.
"Shall we take the Rolls or the Bentley today, James? I really can't
"Even an old blind hog finds an acorn every now and then."
Is it unusual to have more than one chop saw? Then I finally have a
gloat. I have 5 of them. I have the Dewalt 12" SCMS, the Hitachi 10"
SCMS, a Delta 10" MS, a cheapo 8" CMS (for shoe mold, small jobs, it is
easy to carry), and a Delta 10" CMS. They each do slightly different
things and it is nice to have more than one saw set up when you are
running alot of trim with several carpenters. No lines at the chop saw.
You are not a hobbiest. I think owning five chop saws and having
several trim carpenters working for you separates you from at least
51% of us. It was an attempt at humor, perhaps misdirected.
"I'd rather expect the best of people and be wrong than expect the
worst and be right."
I had a Hitachi 8-1/2" slider and sold it to get a 12" CMS.
A CMS takes much less bench depth - I wanted to get my workshop benches down
to 24" deep. The slider needed 30.
Fewer moving parts on a CMS should mean better accuracy. Should -- but
that's tool dependent.
If I was going to cut wide material, I'd use the TS - in fact I'd used the
TS for small stuff also If I want the most accurate cuts.
The 'chop box' was mostly for rapid cutoffs and rough sizing.
I got a reconditioned dual-bevel 12" Dewalt for 209.
I may regret it when I do my home reflooring. I'm not sure the CMS will
give as good a cut as the SCMS, but then again.. I have the TS.
Over the years, I've found that a TS is a royal pain in the patoot
when you're cutting something like shelving to length, or bookshelf
sides, or anything else that is liable to be less than 12" wide and
3/4" thick. I've done it. I'll do it again, if I have to. But a 7'
tall bookcase, with 3' long shelves, all cut from 9-10' long
stock...nah, I'll take an SCMS any day. One assumes that the SCMS is
accurate, and those Hitachis always have been among the most accurate.
Mon, Feb 4, 2008, 10:43am (EST-3) firstname.lastname@example.org (Albert) doth query:
<snip> Which would you keep?
Trick question, right? I'd keep both of 'em, and at 8'X12', my
shop is probably more limited in space than yours. I've got a 10" CMS,
and the way I've got it set up right now it'll make a cut just a shade
under 7" wide.
JOAT - who does not welcome thread question e-mails..
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I've read all of the replies and no one mentioned the laser. I'm surprised
at that. If you have ever had a saw with a laser, you'd never go back. At
least, I wouldn't. I have the Delta version of the PC with the dual laser.
It's accurate and convenient. Sure beats bending down low to see where the
blade will enter the wood. If it were me, I'd keep the PC.
Best Regards, Phil
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Have they got those lasers down to the width of a razor blade? If not,
then they are just not accurate enough for me. I have used several with
lasers and the laser was pretty much useless for accuracy within a 32nd
To be really accurate the laser should be mounted so that the beam is
parallel to the blade and aligned so that it strikes the highest set
point on a tooth, so that you use the tooth shadow for your alignment
point. I don't know if any of the commercially available lasers
intended for attachment to saws allow this or not, having never dinked
with one, but having spent quite a lot of time in a laboratory working
with lasers in my youth that's the way I would design it if it were up
I find them highly accurate. They are adjustable, also. On mine, there is
a laser on each side of the blade. I did a little review on my Delta, it's
on my site at www.philsfun.com I will say, when I'm cutting picture frames,
I will set stops and use those rather than the laser. I do find that to be
most accurate and quick.
I did a little test once with the laser. Made my mark several places on
the wood test piece. I use a metal scribe to mark with to be more
accurate. It makes a mark about a 64th of an inch or less wide. I then
did cuts at 90, 45 left and 45 right once using my eye and once using
the laser. My eye was better than the wide laser line on every single
cut. That was enough for me. The laser mark is so wide that you have
to choose where to put the pencil mark in the laser mark. With my eye,
I put the edge of the blade in the center of the pencil mark.
The laser would give me a cut that was off by at least a 32nd and many
times by more than that.
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