In message , Frank Erskine writes
IANAL either but the way it works on farmland is..... the landowner or his authorised agent has the right to use *reasonable force* to evict a trespasser. I don't think this is quantified but slightly more force than is used to resist.
If this escalates to a tussle, the Police may act against the trespasser for *conduct likely to lead to a breach of the peace*.
These sorts of confrontations are best avoided.
regards
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What about a chain across the drive entrance you could hook/unhook? Only a psychological barrier but it marks the area as 'yours'.
You would be liable. Obviously your risk assessment that you prepared prior to digging the garden was cursory. ;)
Dave Liquorice was thinking very hard :
Dense and prickly beats any man made fence. We have several yards depth of dense bramble surrounding the back. It would take months for some one to hack their way through it.
Try blatantly taking photos of them you could say you are doing it for evidence but most naughty people dont like being photographed even if there is no law theyre breaking they'll probably go away
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- trouble is the disclaimer at the bottom
Following supposed to be true here. Problem with local youths climbing over fence onto property. Owner then 'painted' high up the top edge of the fence and some of the cross members etc with some very greasy paint that didn't dry. Couple of mother's complained about damage to clothes, that would not wash out. Property owner just shrugged and said "Well what were they doing climbing the fence onto someone's property". And may have even suggested that they go talk to the police! Intrusions ceased.
Then the posse will come round to sort out the paedo who's tallking pictures of young children.
MBQ
Then the posse will come round to sort out the paedo who's tallking pictures of young children.
MBQ
and you would get them provoking you
BTDTGTTS.
In our case we decided to tough it out, and had ~15 years of misery.
On a summer Sunday, 'footy' could and did go on from 8 am to 10 pm without a break, with all the intrusions you have described. We prayed for heavy rain every weekend. On fine Sundays we simply took our kids out for the day.
Talking to their parents produced (except for one neighbour) streams of abuse. The police were unhelpful. We suffered all kinds of damage to motor vehicles over a sustained period.
As others have suggested, we planted Pyracantha and Berberis hedges, but they take time to grow.
I rang a legal helpline, who stated that painting the top of the rear garden wall with molyslip grease was legally acceptable, and this resulted in fewer intrusions into the rear garden.
The only relief came when the kids reached 16, and discovered the opposite sex, but their younger brothers carried on the 'footy' for a few more years.
When they grew up, one of the 'footy' brigade tried to sire a football team, but gave up when the third child also turned out to be a girl. He is now divorced. His elder brother is now severely asthmatic and doesn't do sports any more; the gang of three brothers moved away; others have gone on to make lives for themselves, but not in any sporting capacity.
My advice? Move, and soon, before it becomes a declarable neighbour issue.
I suspect this won't help, but it did for us...
We had a similar problem with "kids" (teenagers) playing football in the park entrance opposite our house. Quite a few times I asked them to be careful with the cars etc and while they weren't abusive it only lasted a few mins before they were once again bouncing balls off of them.
Then one Sunday pm a PCSO knocked on the door to introduce himself and asked if we had any issues. I mentioned the problem and a few days later he called back with a diary. We filled this in and in the meantime, he had a word with a few of the kids in the area and it turned out they didn't like playing in the park as there were huge potholes and a broken light.
Within a month the holes were fixed a couple of new lamps fitted so they could see in the park - problem (largely) solved.
I suspect this wouldn't work in most peoples case - and I accept we seem to be rather lucky having a decent PCSO in the area. Instead of being hated by the kids he seems to be their friend (I bumped into him the other night sat on the bench in the churchyard with a few of them eating kebabs!).
He also arranges regular community meetings where the kids are invited along and get to put their side of the argument across. Stops it being a slagging match and actually makes it pretty productive!
Be worth talking to your local PCSO if you have one? I accept that most appear to be jumped up jobsworths though :-(
Darren
Surely eating kebabs is "Beyond the call of duty"!
Andy
Not a lot.
Thoughts in addition to those I have read so far. A garden sprinkler. CCTV Point out to them that you are going to do some work on the gardens, and yo will be using a variety of chmicals to assist. You have read all the instructions though, and the manufacturers claim they are safe, but do suggest gloves when handling, so should a ball come onto the garden, it may be best to use the path and knock on the door to check what has been i use recebntly, after all you don't want any of them to suffer any illness.
P.
"Paul Matthews" wrote
Thanks Paul - the "chemicals" approach sounds good. Rather cheaper than the CCTV method. I did consider one of these teenage-crowd-dispersers, electronic gizmo supposedly creating a noise they don't like. Trouble is they cost close to £500.
Phil
You can pick up a Barry Manilow record from the charity shops for 50p
Owain
He only wants to annoy the teenagers!
Andy
Thus spake dmc ( snipped-for-privacy@ukc.ac.uk) unto the assembled multitudes:
I contacted my local PCSO because of a neighbour persistently parking his
4x4 pickup truck on the pavement when no other parking is available, so that it *completely* blocks it, forcing pedestrians (often with kids in tow) to walk out into the road to get past it. Despite helpful and reassuring noises made by the PCSO, nothing appears to have been done and the problem persists.Pavement parking doesn't appear to be *illegal* though; IIRC the Highway Code says that you "should not" do it rather than you "must not" do it (a huge difference). My argument is that it isn't so much a parking offence as antisocial behaviour. Either way it's f*cking inconsiderate.
In article , snipped-for-privacy@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk scribeth thus
I knew someone who had that problem.. One night he poured a can of brake fluid mixed with paint thinners over the offending vehicle and it was moved afterwards into the driveway of the owner;!...
A problem like that is easily solved with a few gallons of unleaded and a fist sized piece of rock, or if you prefer a less inflammatory approach, a crowbar down the paintwork :)
However driving on the pavement does appear to be illegal so unless they are picking them up and putting them there a crime is being committed. If you do try and persecute them for driving on the pavement make sure you have a proper dropped kerb so you are allowed to cross it to get to your own drive.
You *shouldn't* put a hole in the side walls of the tyres eitgher ;-)
Dave
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