Will the chancellor cane house owners in the budget?

Their were no tiers as they didn't need to add up the cost of operations. There was no need.

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IMM
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Look at the big picture. Find out who own and runs the UK, and for whose benefit, which is not you and me. Read Who Runs Britain by Paxman and Who Own Britain by Cahill. Understand them and then you will see a ruling class of people who think they have the almighty right to rule, or heavily influence matters and live the life of Riley to boot, while excluding others (you and me). Voting Tory is shafting yourself, your family and friends.

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IMM

They go up, and then if/when there aren't enough tenants to go round they will come down. The crunch will come when people who have borrowed on multiple properties get hit by a rise in interest rates and a shortage of tenants at which point they will have to hit the eject button.

The good news is for tenants, and this government has had the good sense to (for the most part) leave well alone. When I was a child in the 1960's my father let out flats and 200 applications for one flat was not unusual. Ours were pretty good by the standards of the day (subsequently retrofitting washing machines and c/h kept us busy for a number of years), but people were grateful to get anything. Now if you don't provide what they're looking for they're off to see another.

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Tony Bryer

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make in that last post - but if you don't like the current system, what do you suggest instead?

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Mal

Chapter 11? What *are* you on about? Why are you pontificating about things you know diddly-squat about?

(Hint: Chapter 11 is American legislation. Completely irrelevant here.)

I suggest he buggers off and lives in a Socialist Paradise somewhere.

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Huge

"Mike Mitchell" wrote | >The real thing to bring the price of houses down is to deflate | >the economy in London and the South-East and rejuvenate depressed | >areas. ... | But it's a lot quicker, certainly in the interim, to build more | housing wherever possible. You can have new housing available within a | few months of planning decisions having been made.

Most of the housing estates I've seen being built take about a year to be sunstantially completed to habitation. Add the need for a new sewage plant or other major infrastructure, however, and it will take longer.

| But it's much more difficult to persuade thousands of families to | move, with all the concommitant issues of work, relatives, roots, | schooling, friends to take account of.

But thousands of families are already moving as rural and 'northern' areas are depopulating. It's only a few hours up the motorway FFS. There are plenty of people willing to travel halfway round the world in a freight container. Judging by how popular the tv programmes are, it seems that the ambition of half the people in London is actually to move out of London.

Owain

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Owain

There are a number of points. The key point is, we in Britain are being ripped off as no other country in Europe is. Every day some price or other is increased, often by a percentage well above the inflation rate. By "price" I mean anything that we pay for any good or service, private or public. Rip offs are everywhere. Today the big story is NHS dentistry, or rather, the lack of it for vast numbers of the population and their need to go private. Do you know how much private dentistry costs? It is exhorbitant beyond all measure. But that is only one service that is beyond all reasonableness in its pricing strategy.

Council tax is another extortion. Today, Rictus Raynsford has been meeting representatives of 11 councils which plan to increase the tax by far more than the Govt wants them to. Although Rictus has threatened to cap councils, he will likely be told to back down eventually so as not to rock the boat too much before the election. That meeting today was probably so that the 11 reps could judge how much of a pussy-cat old Rictus really is, so that they might see what they could get away with by tickling his tummy a bit and saying the right words. In any case, council tax for EVERYbody will be increased by a rate far in excess of the inflation rate, but what choice do we have? Oh, once every five years we can choose a new government - big deal!

The British are not very good at managing money and think that somehow the Govt will bail them out if their houses are repossessed. The humungous increase in property values is out of all proportion to what many ordinary workers can afford, and yet banks, building societies, "independent" financial advisers are only too keen to let gullible newbies borrow six, seven times their annual salary. Other homeowners are taking out new loans using their houses as collateral. If and when a crash comes, they will have to keep paying back the interest and the amount borrowed, yet their houses may only be worth 75% of when they took out that loan for a new car or a smart holiday. Even a 25% drop won't sound too bad to many, but the point is, no one will be able to sell even then.

All this is incredibly stupid, irresponsible and destined to leave a hell of a lot of families destitute and homeless, but do the banks et al care? Of course they don't! They stand to get the interest, the loan paid back, AND the house!

But at least when that happens, the rip offs will finally cease as no one will be able to afford anything except soup.

MM

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Mike Mitchell

Nope. It is the true cost of providing quality treatment.

If people take care of their teeth properly, the ongoing costs are not excessive at all.

I haven't used an NHS dentist for over 20 years, but have some friends who do. There is really no comparison in terms of the treatments done, with the NHS trying to do it to a price. In the practice that I go to, one or two of the junior associates do some NHS work, but the partners certainly don't because they need to make a living.

Speak for yourself.

So why should people be mollycoddled?

Every offer or advertisement of a secured loan has a clear warning in plain english about the implications,.

We've been there before several times. People need to manage their affairs.

The borrower knows what the rules of the game are on the way in.

.andy

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Andy Hall

Project 2000?

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Sausage King

Except that this invariably hurts people and even the economy since the well-being of the latter is unfortunately linked to the 'health' of the house builders (unlike Germany). Any genuinely democratic government that pays attention to all segments of the population (and that includes first time buyers in Devon and Cornwall, not just those who were lucky enough to get aboard the ladder when prices were less than the current multiple of avg. earnings) cannot just stand back and do nothing. This is a classic case of fiddling while Rome is burning.

And now their rent is paid for by Housing Benefit ! - another example of the great British scam.

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Andrew

In article , Owain writes

And after 01/may/04 half of eastern Europe may have the ambition to replace them. How much is that going add to the housing benefit bill ?.

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Andrew

I disagree. Should be " especially if they have been on management courses!"

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Capitol

No. He says he wants to live in the Euro zone.

Laughs!!

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Capitol

I like that one!

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Capitol

I don't agree. The cost of private basic dental work is IME much lower in the US than in the UK.(£1=$1.6) This seems to be as a result of a lack of competition in private practice and much higher building etc overhead costs. The UK is just not efficient at healthcare in any form which I have seen and it seems to be related to the historic management practices of the land-owning hierarchy, which are still practised today throughout all the UK.

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Capitol

Hmm. It wasn't very different when I compared recently with what some friends were paying in Califormia.

Ah, that could be. Clearly it's another indicator for land reform, specifically targetted at dentists in this case. A land value tax scaled by the number of root canal treatments that they do.

.andy

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Andy Hall

And at present £1 = $1.9. Who thinks like me that the US economy is not in good shape?

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Rectum Raynsford would be closer to the mark.

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"Andy Hall" wrote | >Today the big story is NHS dentistry, or rather, the lack | >of it for vast numbers of the population and their need | >to go private. Do you know how much private dentistry costs? | >It is exhorbitant beyond all measure. | Nope. It is the true cost of providing quality treatment. | If people take care of their teeth properly, the ongoing costs | are not excessive at all.

If people have good teeth to start off with. I don't, and finding money for serious treatment on the NHS could be difficult. Private care is simply unaffordable. I don't want whitening, straightening, gold filling, crowning, capping, or root canalling. I just want teeth that don't hurt and are reasonably efficient for eating. And for a supposedly developed country that really shouldn't be too much to ask.

Owain

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Owain

Yeah, well, I'd just like to see the bastard cry. Just the once!

MM

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Mike Mitchell

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