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==Lubricating oils== Oils whose primary use is for lubrication.

===Machine oil=== Machine oil is a thin light petrolum oil used for undemanding lubrication, such as small machinery, hand tools etc. It is also widely used to thinly coat steel tools before export, preventing rust.

Sewing machines and many other appliances use machine oil.

Baby oil is machine oil with a little mild perfume added, and this is a very convenient way to buy machine oil for many DIYers. (The method of its extraction from babies remains a closely guarded secret.)

===Engine oil=== Engine oils are excellent lubricants. They are highly stable petroleum derived oils, with additives to enhance their stability even further.

20/50 was once the most common engine oil grade, but 10/30 took over as the dominant grade a couple of decades ago. 10/30 is less viscous, and pumping it uses less energy.

===Used engine oil=== Used engine oil is blackened by engine deposits and assorted burnt matter. It still lubricates, but the potential for toxicity of a contaminant and its dirtiness make it unpopular for DIY use.

50/50 engine oil and paraffin or diesel has long been used to preserve woodwork. Its effective and cheap, but dark in colour and contains unspecified engine contaminants. New oil and paraffin is a better alternative, with neither of these issues.

===Castor oil=== Castor oil was the original engine oil, and the source of the name Castrol. Its still available for historic vehicles designed to use it. It is a fixed grade of oil, unlike today's multigrades, hence its viscosity varies considerably with temperature. It is much more prone to gumming than modern engine oils, and is not suitable for today's engines.

===Gear oil=== Related to engine oil, gear oils are designed to survive higher shear forces than engine oils. Engine oil is not recommended for gearboxes (with the exception of the original Mini)

===2 stroke oil=== Another petroleum lubricating oil.

===Silicone oil=== A high price oil occasionally used as a DIY lubricant.

==Fuel oils== Oils primarily used as fuels

===Diesel, 35 second oil=== Red diesel and 35 second oil are the same product. Also known as gas oil.

Red diesel is only legal for non-road uses.

Its occasionally used as heating oil for old installations. 35 and 28 second oils aren't interchangeable, 35 second requires a larger burner jet and causes more heat exchanger fouling.

Red diesel has 2 markers, one visible (red), one not. These stain filters.

Tankers are labelled UN1202.

Despite being a petroleum product, diesel is not easy to ignite. Applying a naked flame to a pool of diesel isn't likely to light it.

===Paraffin=== Best known as a fuel for heating & blowlamps, paraffin has several other uses too

  • insect repellant
  • mix with oil to make a penetrating oil
  • engine oil flushing additive
  • cleaner especially effective for all types of vehicle & road dirts, oils, tars, bitumen, etc

Paraffin can be used neat for cleaning car parts, or it can be mixed with water & a detergent.

Paraffin is now also known as:

  • premium kerosene
  • kerosene C1
  • premium burning oil (PBO)

Paraffin has been dyed with several different colours over time, including blue, pink, yellow, green.

===Heating oil, 28 second oil=== aka

  • 28 second heating oil,
  • kerosene
  • kerosene
C2
  • Tankers are labelled UN1223

Widely used for central heating. Its a less refined grade of paraffin.

Since it can run an engine it contains an invisible marker to detect illegal on-road use. Its not the same grade as road diesel, its thinner, but it works.

Supply of 28 second oil is a competitive market, and worth phoning around.

===Lamp oil=== Deodorised dyed paraffin, avoids creating the famous oil heater whiff.

==Other oils== ===Oil thickener=== Very thick oils are used on their own in speed reducing devices, eg in devices to slow the opening of cassette deck doors.

They are also added to car engines to thicken the engine oil, reducing the blue smoke output of worn engines.

Oil thickeners are available from car accessory shops.

===Penetrating oil=== Penetrating oil is a mix of thin oil and an agent such as paraffin which cuts the oil's viscosity.

Penetrating oils are able to penetrate tiny gaps and help unseize corroded fixings. These are much used in car repair.

If no penetrating oil is to hand, a mix of thin oil and a viscosity cutter (eg paraffin) works.

===hydraulic oil=== As used in hydraulic jacks. what type is this? (Brake fluid is not oil)

==Decorator's oils== Mostly used in finishing

===Linseed oil===

  • Thins oil based paints, but greatly extends drying time.
  • Enables water based paints to adhere to a greater range of surfaces (mix in 1-2% linseed oil)
  • Makes a range of putties & mastics
  • Thins linseed putty
  • Makes tack rags
  • Used in some finishing oil mixtures for wood

Raw linseed oil is just linseed oil. Boiled linseed oil is today linseed oil plus chemical dryers. Boiled oil sets to a gum in time, raw either doesn't or takes an extremely long time. Boiled should be used in all the above applications, though raw is also fine for tack rags.

===Tung oil===

===Danish oil===

==Additives & alternatives== ===Engine oil & paraffin=== A 50/50 mix has several uses.

  • wood preservative
  • penetrating oil
  • corrosion inhibitor - but it becomes slightly sticky

===Graphite=== Graphite is a solid lubricant. Graphite powder is sometimes added to oils to improve lubrication, and in some cases can even be used instead of oil. Its electrically conductive.

===Teflon=== Teflon is another solid lubricant, and much the same can be said for it as graphite.

===Paraffin=== Can be added to oil to cut its viscosity temporarily. However it eventually evporates.

===Vegetable oil=== Several plant derived oils are used for cooking. These lubricate, but over time they gum up badly. This greatly limits their use, but they're fine for jobs such as lubricating [[screws]]. Feeding the DIYer is the main use.

===Margerine=== Most margerines are plant oil (sometimes fish oil) based, with a large percentage of added water. These can sometimes be used as a last ditch lubricant, but they gum up eventually. The water content dries out, but can cause corrosion.

==Hair oils== A spoonful of oil added to a litre of shampoo acts as a hair conditioner. Commercial conditioners tend to use thick oils such as palm oil, castor oil, jojoba oil etc.

===Palm oil=== Palm oil is thick semi-solid natural oil, and a traditional hair conditioner in some countries. Its available from asian grocery stores, and can be added to shampoo to give conditioning properties.

===Castor oil=== Castor oil is another effective conditioning additive, but availability is poor, and allergic reaction to the castor bean is a known, albeit rare, phenomenon.

===Engine oil=== Engine oil is very effective as a hair conditioner (added to shampoo), but it should not be used due to its entirely unsuitable additives.

===Vegetable oil=== Its not as effective as engine oil, but is safe to use. Vegetable cooking oils are thinnner than the more usual conditioning oils, and this works better for some hair types, and less well for some.

==Branded products== A few branded products are well known in DIY and deserve their own mention. The well known brands can all be replaced with other good products at a fraction of the cost.

===3 in 1===

3 in 1 is a brand of oil that attempts to be 3 things in one: lubricating oil, penetrating oil and corrosion prevention. Since these 3 tasks have conflicting requirements its impossible to make a good job of them with one product.

Since its prone to becoming gummy its not recommended as a lubricant. The cans it comes in are handy.

===WD40=== WD stands for 'water displacer.' Water displacers are of very limited use in DIY today, primarily used to reduce rusting of tools in damp storage. Machine oil is the product of choice for this.

WD40 also acts as a penetrating oil, though there are cheaper and in some people's opinion better brands out there, such as plusgas.

WD40 is not recommended as a lubricant.

The manufacturer claims

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Many appliances have been ruined by the indiscriminate application of WD40. It is not a cure-all and there are common products and materials to which it should not be applied.

===Swarfega=== Paraffin gel with additives. Paraffin alone makes quite a good substitute.

==Oil kit== Inevitably opinions vary on this, so this list is just intended as a quick starting point guide.

A good kit of oils for DIY may contain:

  • Machine oil (thin lubricant, rust prevention)
  • Engine oil (thick lubricant, car)
  • Paraffin (cleaning, insect repellant, additive)
  • Penetrating oil (frees corroded fixings)
  • Linseed oil (paints, putties, polishes etc)

==Not usable== The following might tempt the ocasional DIYer, but are not usable for DIY.

===Petrol=== Petrol deserves a brief mention simply because is is not usable for any DIY use outside of running engines, but occasionally a DIYer decides to try it as a substitute. Its highly volatile and creates an explosive cloud of gas/air mixture. Inhaling the amount of fumes caused by painting with it causes anything from migraine to death.

Petrol tankers are marked UN1203

==Smoky engines== While there is more than one possible cause, vehicles with smoky engines are usually suffering from wear, which allows tiny amounts of engine oil into the cylinder, where it is burnt, producing smoke. This gets past worn valve seals more often than piston rings.

Replacing 10/30 with 20/50 is often done to reduce smoking. Adding an oil thickener can reduce smoke output further. These are of course not proper cures and not manufacturer recommended, but have got a lot of cars through MOTs.

==Plumbing== Oil lines should use only compression fittings.

==Storage== New oil tanks must now be bunded to prevent contamination in case of leakage.

Storage of large amounts of highly flammable fuel oils is strictly regulated by law.

==Spills== Cleanup methods include:

  • caustic soda
  • paraffin
  • hot pressure washing
  • burning the contaminated materials

==Disposal== Reusing the oil for something else is sometimes an option. Otherwise oils should be disposed of at the local tip, where its recycled.

Heating boilers have occasionally been modified to burn used engine oil. This is cheap to run, but there are concerns over contaminants, and the relatively viscous oil must be preheated before the boiler can fire.

==See Also==

  • [[Grease]]
  • [[Special:Allpages|Wiki Contents]]
  • [[Special:Categories|Wiki Subject Categories]]

[[Category:Heating]] [[Category:Fixings]] [[Category:Cleaning]] [[Category:Paint]]

Reply to
meow2222
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Nose oil - used when applying gold leaf.

And not a single mention of olive oil - extra virgin or otherwise! That's chutzpah.

Reply to
Rod

As a marketing tool, "boom boom boom Esso Blue", can't remember whose was pink but I think there was a panther involved.

Heating oil now carries a visible yellow marker dye.

It also tracks the price of crude with not much lag. So if crude prices are trending down hold off buying, if trending up buy...

Is it cotton and raw(?) linseed oil that can spontaneously combust?

Teflon is a trade name from DuPont(?) for polytetrafluoroethene PTFE.

Delete "highly", to me that implies petrol or other light oils but not kerosenes or diesel but the storage of all is regulated.

Reply to
Dave Liquorice

In metalwork[1] at school we used it to blue things made out of mild steel. Is that a standard use?

[1] Formally entitled "Design and Technology: Resistant Materials Technology". FFS.

Yeah - when I was about ten I lubricated my Mammod steam engine with it and seized it up solid.

Probably worth mentioning that there are heaters (for workshops etc) that are purpose-built for burning old engine oil.

If you'd put it on the wiki I could have edited it directly :-)

Pete

Reply to
Pete Verdon

Could someone explain the apparent witch hunt of WD40 around here? IMO its an excellent product.

Has anyone done a controlled test on its rust prevention qualities against machine oil?

Granted its not a specific penetrating oil, but as a 'one stop' multi purpose product its pretty good at many things.

Not by whom? It clearly is a lubricant. I've used it on hinges, locks, fans, tools, padlocks and all sorts of other things.

Like what? Do we have any evidence? Why would it harm anything? I've got padlocks on sheds & gates 20+ years old, given a squirt of WD40 annually and none have gummed up or gone sticky - they all work perfectly.

Again, what shouldn't it be applied to? I've never damaged anything with it.

We certainly shouldn't be putting opinions like this on the Wiki unless they have some scientific evidence.

Reply to
The Medway Handyman

Aladdin pink.

And there was Fina Green Paraffin.

Reply to
Rod

Hmm, for reasons I can't really quantify, I am rather predisposed against placing too much reliance on WD40 or similar squirt-on products.

It *is* excellent at dispersing damp on ht leads, it helps with shifting accumulations of crud when carrying out some half-hearted maintenance on cheap power tools, and it can also help where, for want of a better description, 'coarse' lubrication is needed, like on gate hinges, bolts, etc.

I certainly wouldn't consider using it as lubrication where there's a fairly heavy duty cycle. Somehow I couldn't see the valve gear on a steam loco lasting too long with just a squirt of WD40.

Horses for courses an' all that! It's really down to common sense.....

Reply to
The. Wanderer

Correction! :-)

It was "boom boom boom boom Esso Blue"!

Reply to
Bob Eager

It was Aladdin Pink (parafin), I think.

Reply to
tinnews

... and "Esso Esso blue blue blue blue"

I don't remember this, but it's so good:

They asked me how I knew It was Esso Blue, I of course replied With lower grades one buys Smoke gets in your eyes.

And:

Man sits on floor confronting paraffin heater, and a voice answers his questions to a jingling little tune

Man: I?ve got a cold house. Voice: Why don?t you heat it? Man: My heater?s empty, I think. Voice: Why don?t you fill it? Man: I?m out of paraffin. Voice: Well now that?s easy, ring for Pink. Man: Now can you tell me, what will it cost me? Voice: Less than a penny an hour. Man: That?s fine. (sung as one line) Now can you tell me, who will deliver it? Voice: the dealer where you see this sign, see this sign, (annoying jingly sound) see this sign.

Apparently, 'they' also sold White May - same as Pink but uncoloured. And it was cheaper.

Reply to
Rod

In my experience a squeaky door "lubricated" with WD40 will become a squeaky door again. One lubricated with a proper oil doesn't.

That's 'casue you keep adding back the volatiles that have evaporated. It does leave a residue over time from a thick gum to a dry varnish like layer depending on the enviroment. The "wetter gum" stages are sticky and any muck floating about will get stuck. When the kit is operated/used this muck then gets drawn into the mechanisium and increases the rate of wear. This probably isn't an issue for a shed padlock but for something in constant use...

Reply to
Dave Liquorice

I had a wander around B&Q today, and noticed that they now stock a reasonable range of 3 in 1 "sprays".

I'm sure we've all had _some_ sort of "success" with the dreaded WD-40, but there are much better products for every one of its claims. It's a sort of "Jack of all trades and master of none".

I don't think it's an awfully good idea to "advertise" particular makes of product on Wiki...

Reply to
Frank Erskine

I find it works as a quick, but temporary fix. It soon evaporates and stops working, but leaving a sticky deposit behind. I have had cans where there has been a slight leak. All that is left is a thick sticky mess which attracts dirt with little in the way of lubrication properties. I find it does excel at cleaning things such as dirty, oily grubby rear wheels on motor bikes due to the chain lubrication - spray on, wipe the dirt off.

Reply to
Harry Bloomfield

I would assume that the Ministry of Defense did that many years ago.

If, as I have, you had worked on defense projects, it would have brought you into contact with far superior oils and greases. Trust the wiki on WD 40, it is a water dispersant. Most of the other stuff in it is quite good though.

Dave

Reply to
Dave

Baby oil / liquid paraffin / white oil for medicinal use are very highly refined.

Machine oil is a very loose term, it may refer to "edible oils" as use on bacon slicing machines, etc, but it may not. I would expect sewing machine oil to contain various additives, some of which you might not want to put on babies.

For "domestic" use I certainly wouldn't use medicinal oil for rust prevention, I'd use 3 in 1.

Reply to
newshound

My garage padlock is used at least once a day, 7 days a week. Good as new.

I suspect the predudice surrounding WD40 is because (a) its American & (b) its hugely successful.

Reply to
The Medway Handyman

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember snipped-for-privacy@care2.com saying something like:

Palm oil.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember snipped-for-privacy@care2.com saying something like:

Only if you want to wreck your HP pump. It contain very little of the lubricity required for diesel injection systems, especially the Common Rail modern ones. Caterpillar have a tech doc on their website relating to kero, JP, and Biodiesel in their highway engines. Google for "caterpillar engine on kerosene" and you'll find it.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Rod saying something like:

David Bowie.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

No, just accept that soome people have a different opinion of the stuff as an all-purpose lubricant than do you

Reply to
The. Wanderer

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