where to find steel beams - and somebody to put them in - for a loftconversion

[larry]

for a loft conversion I need 3 sections of 152mm UC 23kg/m each between 3 and 4 meters long - bolted together on site and in one place resting on a steel post.

Basically the complete beam sits just under the ceiling on the first floor and rests at each end in the outside wall on a padstone - and with a post and another supporting wall in between.

Where do I find (i.e. what do I look for in yellow pages or elsewhere) a company that can come and measure up on site - go home at cut and weld and then return and put the beams an post in and bolt all together - and make the building inspector (and me) happy with the result??

(or could this be a diy jobby ?)

And now I am at it : can anybody recommend a roofer /carpenter to do a cut roof in this area as well.

and somebody to make the staircase..

many more questions to follow.

I live in the Bracknell/Ascot area.

Cheers Larry

[Tony Bryer]

You basically need an engineer to design splice joints at the cut positions and then any steel fabricator should be able to do the necessary. End plate splices on 152x152 are problematic because of the limited space. Flange plate splices are much easier to design and fabricate (no welding) but won't help if headroom is a factor.

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[Owain]

"larry" wrote | for a loft conversion I need 3 sections of 152mm UC 23kg/m | each between 3 and 4 meters long - bolted together on site and | in one place resting on a steel post. | Basically the complete beam sits just under the ceiling on the | first floor and rests at each end in the outside wall on a | padstone - and with a post and another supporting wall in between. | Where do I find (i.e. what do I look for in yellow pages or | elsewhere) a company that can come and measure up on site - go home | at cut and weld and then return and put the beams an post in and bolt | all together - and make the building inspector (and me) happy with | the result??

Yellow Pages is "Steel Erectors" and "Steel Fabrications", the former possibly not interested unless you have 20 storey towerblock's worth of super-meccano to assemble, and the latter will need careful scrutiny of adverts to distinguish between those who make security grilles, commercial kitchen worktops, etc and those who do Structural Steelwork.

They will probably expect (engineer's) drawings and specification to quote from, altough some will have design and draughting facilities.

| and somebody to make the staircase..

a couple of pages before the above, Staircase Mfrs - Wood (see also Joinery Mfrs).

It's at this point you decide the mandatory finishing touch is a Stained Glass window!

Owain

[G&M]

Look in "Steel fabrications" or the back of numerous house renovation magazines for the sort of company that fabricated and puts in made to measure steel staircases. They will have the right level of skill, equipment and regulations knowledge and still be interested in your job if they're not too busy.

[el pee]

since both the joints are resting on either a wall or a post they will not be under any stress, so couldn't the beams just be bolted together with a plate across the verital part of the beam like this : _____________________________________________ __________|____________ | O O O O | | O O O O | beam |_______________________| ______________________|__________________________ | | | | | | | | | | | | post | | | |

cheeers larry

[el pee]

since both the joints are resting on either a wall or a post they will not be under any stress, so couldn't the beams just be bolted together with a plate across the verital part of the beam like this : _____________________________________________ __________|____________ | O O O O | | O O O O | beam |_______________________| ______________________|__________________________ | | | | | | | | | | | | post | | | |

cheeers larry