Rather than tangentialise perfectly good topics, is it me, or does there seem to be a marked increase in posts which are not quoted properly?
Wthout checking all the posts, I assume Outlook Express is to blame?...
Nope. It's people posting through Google groups I believe. A real pain in the bum when you're trying to make sense of long threads.
Tim D
I use Outlook Express, so how is this reply for quote marks?
mark
Fine but can Outlook on an exchange server be persuaded to do the same?
AJH
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Is good. I thought I'd seen a reference before to OE and "quotefix" but maybe I'm wrong.
But it's still MS's fault
even if it's Google's[1]
[1] Google can do no evil, but MS are the devil's colostomy bagsSorry - it's that Tesco Value Gin...
Try reading it via Google Groups, looks much better.
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Why would I want to do that?
USENET is USENET is NNTP - I like it because it puts the control of how I read where it belongs - in my client program. There is no web forum, including Google Groups (as a web front end to USENET) that even comes close in functionality.
Don't get me wrong - Google is good for a) historical searches as DejaNews was before it; b) as an emergency interface when at a friends or in an Internet Cafe. But it is not, for me (and many others) how USENET should be.
As to the quoting - it's not hard to stick a ">" in front of the quoted text is it? I find it easier to follow than any amount of colouration or fancy vertical lines.
Cheers
Tim
The problem is when OE (or Windows Mail) users reply to posts made using Google groups. Allocation of blame is a moot point. It never used to be a problem, until something changed on GG, but it only affects OE/WM.
'quotefix' fixes it - if you really want the annoyances of 'quotefix'.
Personally, I parallel run all my newsgroup subs on Thunderbird and if someone makes a post via GG that is actually worth responding to, I'll use T-bird for that post.
OK, someone with OE reply to this then.
Worked fine. No quotefix here, it got the quotes right on its own.
Your post had:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
as opposed to the more normal GG output of:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's the second line which throws OE - it really can't cope with converting that in to standard quoted form.
So, your post looks like it came via GG - what did you do?
although this is strictly outside what News supports, in respect of being non-7-bit, and being non-ASCII.
Actually, it is - the problem with OE is it can't cope with putting the > marks in for messages which have that header. Yes, it's a bug, and yes, it'll have been around for ages, and yes, MS are idiots for not fixing it.
OK Tim - or anyone else.
I regard myself as being reasonably computer literate, and can cope with what most applications I run throw at me, but I've tried a number of Usenet apps. over the years and never been able to come to terms with them, nor found them any advantage, except perhaps for KF's, over Google Groups.
I find the layout perfectly satisfactory and comprehensible, and just do wonder what seems to be the 'geeks' eye rejection of it as a Usenet reader.
Equally then if you are going to convince me that I shouldn't use Google, what should I be using and are there adequate tutorials in setting it up ?
I would say that once again this topic has been raised as a tirade against a section of this collective without anything constructive being said - and I see that the poor Scots are being singled out; what's the justification for that?
Rob
"andrew" wrote
Presumably not! I use Outlook via exchange, but if you select Go-News, Outlook Express is launched automatically. Works for me though, because you are thrown into a separate account and therefore are not going to use your general email address in a Newsgroup post accidentally.
Phil
Your wish is my command :-) I do have OE Quotefix installed though. Does that make a difference?
It looks fine!
OE (with Quotefix) is perfectly easy to use and gives a far nicer interface to reading & responding to messages than any web interface. Of course using any newsreader does depend on you subscribing to a news service, either one supplied by your own ISP or one that you subscribe to (like new.individual.net).
Tim D
Much better just killfiling the whole mess.
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That works :)
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