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show the brine wastepipe connection at the back of my water softener. There's a plastic right-angle, with a bright white flexible soft-plastic pipe held firm on it by the metal clip.
1) What sort of clip is that and what is it called?2) How do I get that clip off?
3) Any likely sources for the flexible pipe (in one metre lengths, not 25m :-)The flex pipe has fallen over and is kinked at both ends, so I want to replace it and anchor firmly to a handy wall.
Ta,
Looks like a single use crimp of some sort.
The white plastic bit looks the same as a washing machine 90 degree supply hose. If one of those will fit that would be the easy option, complete with hose...
If not larger B&Q have some clear soft poly pipe up to about 1" or try a garden center that has a good water feature section. Getting that clip off might be fun (angle grinder) fix new hose on with an ordinary jubilee clip.
It is a crimped pipe clip (google images) and replacement ones need a special tool to fit them. It is a really a production item/process Replace with jubilee clip. Maybe some pipe from a auto spares place or a bit of garden hose or or.....
It's a compression clip
Pliers on both of the compression rings.
Just a crimped-on clip. Cheap and nasty idea from the automotive industry.
Put a screwdriver blade between the squeezed ends - forget about re-using it, use a Jubilee.
Thanks Dave and Bob and Adam. Looks like it's a 2-ear hose clamp.
Try this.
I thought Jubilee clips were well recognised as being crap at providing even compression? Crimped connections aren't always "cheap and nasty". They actually do a better job of sealing a hose to a connection.
I would go with the "replace with a washing machine hose & fitting" option.
Tim
Don't know where you got that idea - they do the job well enough for home use and have been in service for decades in all sorts of conditions. I mean proper decent quality jubilees, not the shit cheap things.
They are cheap and nasty - they're designed to be as cheap as possible for a production line - 1p saved per clip per million vehicles adds up to a helluva lot of golf club memberships for the directors. As for doing a better job - sometimes, sometimes not.
The problem lies in the length of the non-contracting section. If you don't get exactly the right size they just can't compress evenly.
They're designed also to not fail. Something that they're remarkably good at.
Jubilee clips are a bodge.
Tim
Often referred to as Oetiker clamps.
Brute force
You can use pincers to fit new ones.
Funny then, I've never had a problem with them. Unless I've tried to use the wrong size, of course. Hey - there's a thought; what about using the wrong size of those clampy clips? You think that might work? Of course not.
Two reasons why I'd use something I can undo with a screwdriver (jubilee clip) or my fingers (plastic ratchet type).
Well firstly as they're factory applied (in general), they don't use the wrong size. Secondly, they don't have an inflexible section like jubilee clips so the compression forces will be more even.
Tim
I've never seen a jubilee variant of CV joint boot retainer work, whereas the cheap and nasty alternative seems to win hands down.
Whoosh.
^^^^^ This bit's important.
Really? And how good, qualitywise, do you rate the CV boot jubilee type you have experience of? I've used proper Jubilee clips on CV boots and never had one fail. The cheapy jubilee-alike ones are a different story.
Never said they don't work - just cheap and nasty and non-reusable; and you need a special tool.
Don't really understand your objection to crimped clamps. From an engineering point of view, they just do the required job better, end of. Jubilee clips are prone to corrosion and leakage if not sized carefully. Crimped clamps are cheaper *and* better at doing what they're required to do.
Of course jubilee clips are easier to buy, fit and reuse but that don't make them necessarily better and they certainly aren't more reliable. Their use is prohibited in some hostile environments.
As I said, a handy DIY bodge if you don't have access to crimping tools.
Tim
End of f*ck all. I have a deep and serious objection to them on principle - they are cheap and nasty and that's it. Dead simple. They aren't used to make your life easier; they're there to save the makers of the kit a few quid and that's it. If you can't see that, I despair.
You're letting your prejudices get in the way of engineering realities. Have a look under the bonnet of any modern car. How many jubilee clips do you see? Do you *seriously* believe that your car would be more reliable with all the crimped clamps replaced with worm gear ones?
Just because they're not as "user friendly" and are cheaper does not make them inferior at doing the required job. It was never part of a hose clamp's remit to "make your life easier" from the DIY point of view. They have made our lives one heck of a lot easier by being more reliable though.
Tim
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