I'm investigating a welding set and have a question about gas bottles. As I undertsand it, you have to rent larger bottles rather than buy them.
But there are a few people selling bottles on ebay like this:-
With BOC you certainly have to rent the bottles. The problem is when you need to refill them. You can't do that without an account and BOC know what size bottles each customer holds. If you can find someone with an account and the same size bottles, you may be able to get round the problems. I would certainly want to know where these came from.
John
Agreed. I used to get Argon mix for my MIG from BOC and I understood that the bottle always belonged to them and I only owed the gas .
To the OP...Why don't you consider a MIG Welder .It'll be cheaper and a lot easier to use . You'll still need to get gas altho' you can get gasless ones as well .
Stuart
Actually, I *am* considering a MIG welder but the gas bottle question is essentially the same.
Talk to a couple of your local welding supply firms. I had an arrangement with mine where I paid £25 a year and became a trade customer and got cheap hire of bottles and refills for next to nothing. The manager got a credit for the account, and I got very reasonable supplies for the year I wanted to use this type of stuff. It was particularly good for a braising kit I needed with bottles at £9 instead of the daft one-off retail price.
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The little disposable bottles are more expensive, but unless you do quite a lot of welding it's probably not worth going to anything bigger
- the amount you'll save just isn't worth it.
If you're only using CO2, a cellar gas bottle from the local pub would be ideal though - and you can get adaptors from most "proper" welding suppliers.
You cook meat with a welding kit ...lol
Stuart
Check with BOC as to the cost of getting suitable gas from them .I used to have an Argon Mix bottle and as someone else said I had to open an account but that was painless and I just got the gas as I needed it and returned the bottle when it was no longer needed .. ....You'll need gauges as well .... There are other companies who do gas as well .
Stuart
You don't???
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Speel chucker 0
Thanks, thats exactly the sort of information I was looking for.
They look just like the pair of air products pt10 bottles that were stolen from me ;-(.
You never own these bottles they always remain the property of the company that supplies them.
I lease mine for about 80quid a year but the fills are becoming very expensive about another 80 quid for the DA.
They're very versatile but mig with CO2 from a fire extinguisher seems to be the cheapest weld for occasional use.
AJH
The bottles belong to the company, you have to rent then and to do that you need an account. The traditional solution for small users was to get hold of a bottle (no questions asked) and then find a friendly local account holder to swap out empty for full for the cost of a refill, thus avoiding accounts and rental. I don't know if that still works now they have computerised stock control.
How else do you light them quickly?
I got mine (Co2) from a local supplier. Trawled the Yellow Pages and found a guy in a small unit doing gas etc
Sold me a bottle (fully tested and stamped) for £50.00 then said a fiver a time to refill it.
Mark S.
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