Way to go den ...

[dennis]

*If* they were properly trained then its time to look at the training. >

[dennis]

Are you saying the training is inadequate?

[dennis]

So it was entirely the drivers fault. I hope the police prosecute!

[Andy Hall]

It could be. For example, somebody could be nattering to a friend and step out into the road with pushchair without looking. It's more likely that some arbitrary car would have knockd the whole lot flying than an ambulance

No, but I do want them to get there quickly. It would appear that people are generally supportive of emergency vehicles going faster than the normal speed limit and for other vehicles and pedestrians to make way for them.

The dog can be replaced, that's true. It could be trained, as could the owner.

[dennis]

Yes it is. Ambulance drivers have the same if not more duty of care as any other driver.

*You* appear to prefer killing people, that's the important thing here. We now know you value your life above others.

[dennis]

They have started doing the same with the fire engines around here. That's a part of what the last strike was about, crews moving about so they were in the best place should there be a fire. Its hard to sleep if you aren't in the station. The ambulances have been doing it for at least a year and it works very well.

[Andy Hall]

For the dog owner, absolutely. Let's hope that if they get another that they will arrange training for the dog and for themselves.

[Andy Hall]

I completely agree. As I said, this is not the same as any old car driving along.

However, no amount of care can address the issue of a dog not properly under control.

No I don't. The important thing here is that you have unrealistic expectations and would like to have your cake and eat it.

If that question is asked of anybody and an *honest* answer is given, we all value our lives above others in the final analysis. It's known as self preservation.

[The Medway Handyman]

Whoosh! I was being sarcastic Dennis, please try to pay attention.

Which bit of the following leads you to believe that?

"she had to radio control for another ambulance to collect the cardiac arrest patient in the back of her truck - who fortunately survived".

Oh, and you would know all about that would you?

Ambulance crews don't 'treat' cardiac arrest patients, their mandate is to stabilise the patient e.g. stop him/her from croaking until they can get them to A&E where they can be treated properly.

I should take up smoking Dennis - it improves your concentration & protects against Parkinson's disease.

"Symptoms of dementia associated with Parkinson's disease vary from person to person. The most common are memory loss and loss of the ability to reason and to carry out normal everyday tasks. The person may become obsessional and there may be a loss of emotional control, with sudden outbursts of anger or distress"

Sounds just like you doesn't it?

[Bob Eager]

They've been doing it for at least ten years here.

[Rod]

Stuff nattering to a friend - engrossed in a mobile conversation, phone stuck to ear, and not taking *any* notice of their environment. That is what seems to be happening more and more. The startle they show if they do notice a car (and driver) waiting is, IMHO, proof of their inattention.

[Andy Hall]

Darwin, then....

[Rod]

Can you say that about the dog? :-)

[Owain]

(a) because the ambulance personnel may be distracted/traumatised by such an incident, which puts their patient and other road users at increased risk (b) because the newspaper headline "ambulance killed my dog and didn't stop" is more embarrassing than "ambulance killed my dog" (c) because the personnel might think they had hit a dog, but had actually hit a child (d) because the vehicle might have been damaged

?

Owain

[Owain]

In material terms, yes, but then so can children (sometimes). Emotionally, however, I suspect even a cloned dog would not be considered a replacement.

Owain

[The Medway Handyman]

Makes sense to me.

[dennis]

Why do you keep trying to justify bad driving? Even an emergency vehicle is required to be able to stop before they hit something. The fact that the dog was there and the driver didn't allow enough room to stop shows that the driver is not very good. You can try and change the facts but anyone can look them up on Google so it makes you appear rather silly.

You are still trying to blame the drivers error on someone else! Why?

[dennis]

That says more about you than you think.

[dennis]

According to TMH they probably had to stop because they were laughing too much. Probably ran the dog down on purpose too just for a lark. After all he did say they have dark humor.

[dennis]

I know more than you think.

Get some proper paramedics then! The sooner you administer the drugs the better the prospects. The drive back could kill the patent however fast they drive.

It sure sounds like you.