vot. uk. gov - amazing how many "threats" there are

Amazing that virtually every dlva web page has "threats" about how this that and the other is "illegal" and "against the law" and how much the fines are and how you may be prosecuted etc etc.

A clear case of the law-abiding majority being wagged by the owner of the dog's tail.

Reply to
jake
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just think: 0.5p on a litre of petrol and we wouldn't need a car licence at all....

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

I'm all for DIY policy wonking but could you please show your workings as I can't reconcile 0.5p with:

a. yield from VED approx. ?5 billion (see Red Book from Budget 2015) b. yield from increasing duty on petrol and diesel by 1 per cent (approx 0.6 pence per litre) approx. ?250 million (see HMRC's "Direct effects of illustrative tax changes" a.k.a. the Budget ready reckoner)

which I think points to a need for something like 10p per litre. All of course w/o taking any account of behavioural changes. Or of the arguments for a compulsory register of vehicles' keepers.

Reply to
Robin

And within a couple of years we'd have 0.5 on a litre *and* car tax.

Just like happened in Ireland.

Reply to
Huge

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My accounts show that in the last tax year I've spent: Fuel £1033 on 825 litres over 6881 miles Car Tax £145 Insurance £526 MOT/etc £118

Adding the £145 tax to the £1033 fuel gives £1178, which would be £1.42 per litre, so adding around 20p per litre.

jgh

Reply to
jgh

Like with VAT in the UK. Remember back in 1973? I do. VAT - we were assured - would only be imposed on discretionary "luxury items" and even then at only 8%. See how that list of "luxuries" has gradually expanded to encompass nearly everything and how the 8% has more than doubled.

Reply to
Cursitor Doom

You forget to add in the cost savings of sacking the whole DVLA.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Do you think it costs less than 100 quid per license holder to print that paperwork, post those reminders, run the websites and key the whole lot in?

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

And the driving examiners and driving instructors as no driving licenses are being issued. Who handles MOTs?

Reply to
dennis

The Natural Philosopher scribbled

WTF would keep track of driving licences and vehicle ownership? How small is your little world?

Reply to
Jonno

You may well think so. But the truth is out there; and easy enough to find if you can be bothered to look. DVLA's gross operating costs are around ?m500 a year. That covers driver licensing (including medical services) in GB and vehicle registration as well as VED collection. I could see no breakdown of costs by function from a quick scan but that gross is only about ?14 for each of the 35 million vehicles licensed for use in GB. Or if you prefer a bit under ?16 for each of 32 million holders of a full car licence. Given I assume you are not talking about getting rid of both VED and licences and registration I suggest "100 quid per license holder" is out by around 1 dex.

Reply to
Robin

And just which bit of thin air did you grab that from?

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

He supports UKIP so he has no idea about economics.

Reply to
dennis

Dennis@home scribbled

VOSA

Reply to
Jonno

Dennis@home scribbled

Shit, does that mean TNP has a pron video somewhere ?

Reply to
Jonno

I did dig the numbers up a little while ago, and it worked out to almost exactly 12p/litre.

Of course, that would hit certain types of user VERY hard (hauliers and transport businesses). Any incentives to those users to minimise the cost increase for them would have to just add to the raise per litre for those who don't quality, and are therefore providing the subsidy.

Reply to
Adrian

As UKIP are the only party with a viable economic policy you seem to be seriously out of touch.

Reply to
Capitol

Aren't hauliers already paying high VED charges?

Reply to
Capitol

Funny how memories mislead.

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Reply to
Jim Newman

You can't be serious.

Reply to
dennis

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