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No they don't. They don't cool and are totally inadequate for most of the summer. Have you considered planting geraniums outside? These will produce a 15 degree drop in inside temperature - or so it is claimed. Apparently theu also drop humidity by 40 per cent.
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Simon Gardner wrote:

Really? 15 degrees? I wish someone had told me that before I spent all that money on the aircon...
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Yeah. You and me both. I've got 6KW of it cooling my ground floor for 4-6 months a year. The geranium trick is a real pisser, eh?
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That is because you just don't know.
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:46:25 +0000, Simon Gardner wrote:

Well they do in Thailand and Malaysia, BTDTGTTS... Cheap accomodation doesn't run to aircon, it was unbearable inside your without the ceiling fan on.

Whilst they don't cool the air they make it move, this movement keeps you cool naturally. There is a big difference between a slow 4' ceiling fan and an ordinary stand or table fan. The ceiling fan sets up a gentle (or not so gentle on high...) whole room circulation, the table fan just blows a little bit of air about.
Even this years summer was not as hot as the above places and the humidity was nothing like it either.
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Some of them here haven't been around.
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I'm sure they don't there either.

It's unbearable inside without the aircon on.

That's right. No bloody use at all.

It keeps you very slightly less hot. It certainly deson't keep you cool. For that you need aircon.

And yet still far too unpleasant for a ceiling fan to be any use at all.
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:55:06 +0000, 666 snipped-for-privacy@hack.powernet[dot]co[dot]uk (Simon Gardner) wrote:
Snip diatribe about ceiling fans.

No. Ceiling fans are simple, reliable, easily installed and cheap. They are universally used in Texas where my firm has it's head office in conjunction with air conditioning because they reduce the cooling load. You can sleep with them on and they use little electricity.
OTOH aircon units are noisy, expensive to buy and to run, and create cold spots. Installation requires substantial construction work and several specialist trades.
Would I like the house to be a little cooler in the summer? Yes, and if the summers get hotter and/or cheaper (Chinese?) aircon units become available I'll reconsider it. 'Till then I and most British people seem to think airconditioning at home in the UK is not worth it for the few days per year it is so uncomfortably hot. 'Till then..
Ceiling fans rock.
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derek wrote:

???
The thread is about a modest home/office split unit. This required no construction work, and was installed by me in about 3 hours.

You try working in a home office with several PCs running.
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Your comment :
" The hardest part was the 3" hole through the 2' wall"
refers. Someone else mentioned using mechanical handling to get the 60lb compressor mounted high on the outside wall.

No disrespect or criticism intended, I read your original informative post with interest. The one I replied to by 666_ made a series of unsupportable comments about ceiling fans.

Several? That would change the equation, but I've already got 2 here in a room 23' x 12'. I manage with just 2 ceiling fans!
To reduce the heat input I binned 2 CRT monitors and got TFT's, set up power saving plus I shut one PC down when it's not needed. All the lighting is low energy, either CF's or GE induction lamps, it's no hotter than the rest of the house with tellies etc.
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derek wrote:

Sure, it's not hanging up a picture, but certainly not "substantial construction work and several specialist trades". Most uk.d-i-yers do this kind of thing all the time.
As for getting the compressor up a ladder, I think two ladders and two people would be sufficient.

No offence taken - but I've been there with fans, and they are better than nothing, and can be adequate if the insulation and light input are ok, but it just isn't the same as aircon. Nothing feels quite as nice as walking into an air conditioned room on a hot summers day.
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It plays havoc with the body's metabolism. That is why in the USA they revert to serial killing, which crept into the UK when we started this a/c thing. So, overall a/c is dangerous to society at large because:
1) The needless electricity used adds to global warming. 2) Serial killing is now more common. 3) It stops obese people from loosing weight (obese people, who are a menace to society too, overheat too much). 4) This obesity takes its toll on the NHS with self inflicted fatty diseases. 5) Obese people give off far too much flatulence adding to the ozone layer destruction. 6) Obese people don't walk driving everywhere adding to global warming.
So a/c units are bad all around.
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What a strange little person you are. I suppose Jack the Ripper was a Victorian Aircon engineer then?

Personally I reckon the hot air you generate with your strange pontifications is a far larger contributer to global warming than almost any other single factor.

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I am not little.

The Americans had a/c long before us using ice, hence a/c units are rated in tons, which comes from tons of ice used. Jack the Ripper was American and would be have been exposed to a/c. The a/c is the connection. I'm afraid we have potential serial killers on this ng. They should be stopped from doing what they are doing before it is too late.
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Maxie, are you volunteering?
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I'm going to frame this and put it on the wall
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Maxie, that is encouraging! You should have wisdom in eyeshot.
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