I realise this is VERY OT but can anybody help please. I am getting lots of
SPAM on a daily basis offering me 'Alpha Male' and 'HGH' 'products'. The
mails never come from the same person (so blocked sender won't work).
An example of how a mail is headed is:
From: Joe Bloggs, but when I go into the properties of the mail it is
actually from firstname.lastname@example.org
the From line and actual name are never the same and the actual name is
I get mail from friends that use msn.com so cannot have a message rule
deleting all mail from msn.com accounts.
The mails are never typed (like this) but always colourful with a link to
the product, so picking a word in them doesn't work in message rules either,
there are no options on the mails to unsubscribe etc, but this probably
wouldn't work anyway.
Sorry to be OT but if anyone has any ideas I would appreciate it.
Popfile is good, and free. You run it on your pc. You give it the
address of your POP3 mail server. You point your email program at
Popfile rather than the POP3 server. When spam arrives, you tell Popfile
that it is spam. Next time the spam arrives, Popfile will class it as
spam (e.g. add "[spam]" to the subject) and you can filter it into
another folder or the wastebasket. To start with it makes a few mistakes
but after you've corrected it, it learns, and it's pretty good after a
few days use. Works much better than setting message rules.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:32:01 +0000, Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) wrote:
For this I now have to run a filter on my son's W95/OE5 machine to delete
all the trash from time to time. If I don't do this the mailbox will fill
up at demon and the response time for downloading becomes so long my
E-mail client times out...
After my summer holiday demon rang up to ask what I was doing about the
24,000 emails in my inbox!
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
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Demon are in the process of doing something about spam. They are having
to add two new machines a month just to handle the spam. They have
realised that a decent spam filter is probably cheaper in the long run
than the new hardware investment that they keep on having to make
Tell me about it - see my other post
Ed you can filter out "real" emails on turnpike, I'll phone you.
When I suffered a dictionary attack I resorted to rejecting all emails
to 'unknown' email aliases. I don't really like doing that as I have on
occasions had emails sent to mis-spelt email addresses. But the whole
thing was just silly.
Luckily it was to a domain that I was stopping using so long term it
One holiday my email box at one ISP filled up, nowadays I tend to leave
my machine on at home and let it collect the mail.
Setting rules to block spam isn't worth the effort on the whole, there
are too many variables .
I used to not bother much about it, but with the increase in spam, and
Sven etc. I got a bit fed up, so I started trying out some filtering
I'm sure a Google/Google Groups search on stopping spam will give you
more to read that you'd ever want to.
For me, I find the Bayesian statistics stuff works well - I'm currently
using K9. Basically it scans your incoming email and then flags those it
thinks are spam in the headers (it works by analysing the text of the
I can then filter this stuff out in my email client, at the moment I
filter it out ands then manually delete it, I could of course reject it
out of hand if I wanted to.
It's free, see:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:55:26 -0000, "Christian McArdle"
[and other stuff snipped]
Or a more useful suggestion is to install one of the 'intelligent'
spam filters. I use PopFile (http://popfile.sourceforge.net /) It is
surprisingly accurate, and you can decide whether to delete what it
thinks is spam automatically, or to tag it in such a way that your
mail client can divert it into a "possible spam" folder for manual
Any views expressed are not necessarily those of my employer
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:35:10 -0000, "Christian McArdle"
I read something the other day that claimed there are around 200 major
spammers sending 50 million emails per day, *each*. Now things get a bit
uncertain, but I am led to believe that many of these spammers are resident
in one or two states of the yoo-ess which have declined to make such
activities illegal. Free speech or some such crap. (No-one seems to have
explained to these good ole boys that all freedoms come with
Anyway, my idea would be that if enough people could be persuaded to send a
paper letter of complaint to a nominated bunch of these legislators, *all at
the same time*, maybe a million or so envelopes all arriving in short order
and with little to distinguish them from their real mail, and with a real
cost in accepting and sorting them (you see the parallels with spam), then
just *maybe* they might realise the effects of their "free" speech.
Well, it's an idea. I'm up for a 60p stamp. The major flaw, as I see it,
is in persuading a large enough group of people to do so, without, erm well,
spamming them :-) I though of a mail entitled "sick of spam?" but someone
beat me to it.
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
I have started using Opera to filter my most SPAM-ridden account.
The mail client which is built into the browser is quite good.
It has a built in SPAM filter which is remarkably effective.
I am not deleting mail from the server.
My main aim is to filter out the non-SPAM, then arrange for this mail to go
to another account.
After a while my space on the mail server will fill up and all further
messages will be rejected, hopefully slowly reducing the SPAMishness of my
I have already filled up one account, but after leaving it for a couple of
months then clearing it again the SPAM didn't seem to have reduced by all
that much :-(
I use "Mailshield Desktop" which is quite effective. I get
about 3000 junk mails a month, and it filters about 99%
of them. It's designed so that it analyses the messages
before you download them from the server, then either
trashes them or moves them to another folder (if you use
IMAP). I leave it running 24hrs a day on my work machine
which is permanently connected to the Internet, but I can't
see any reason why you couldn't run it before checking
your email, if you only check once or twice a day.
I use spam inspector which does a damn good job of capturing the 300-400
spam emails I would otherwise be hit with each day. Instead they are all
tagged with ** SPAM ** in the subject and automatically dumped in the
deleted mails folder. Another tip is to force all emails to plain text
Filtering spam is not going to stop it, but merely disguise that it
The only way to fight spam is to report it, even if you only report a
percentage of it, at least this lets those that are letting the spam
through, know that you are making a stand against it.
I use spamcop www.spamcop.net and add the following message to the
comments box, with every spam that I report. Hopefully, the message
will start to get through,
"This person is sending unsolicited email, which is now illegal under
ISP's not taking action against the senders of unsolicited email,
could also be accused of aiding and abetting the sending of such
emails, and the ISP's possibly prosecuted, or have sanctions taken
Not quite. Most spam now comes from Trojaned Windows PCs which are
running a mail relay. Spammers scan IP blocks to find them and then
pump their crap through them. The problem's worse with the advent of
Though there are a couple of cable companies in the US who don't care.
A. Top posters.
Q. What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?
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