The bog's stopped working properly. The flush water no longer makes its way all the way round to the front of the bowl, although there seems to be just as much water flowing just as fast as it ever did, so that the front of the bowl never gets cleaned and paper tends not to get flushed away properly either. Anyone had this problem?
That's interesting. I've got exactly the same problem with one of mine.
Mine's always been like it though. I've put it down to the fact that it's a cheapo bog, the sort that derives from Portugal or where ever. Not my choice - our predecessors put it in.
Perhaps it's a water pressure problem? I look forward to seeing any fixes.
If you are in a hard water area, it's probably just scaled up under the rim. The front is where the pressure is least, so is more likely to be affected. Time for descaler and some rags?
Lee
Same problem here. Although we've hard water, the rim underside has always been cleared of scale by squirting the descaler up into it. The water comes through a large number of 6 mm holes under the rim so if it's scaled up, its above these holes. Tried descaler in the cistern too, but bad idea. Before that worked on the scale it softened the rubber washer on the water supply inlet at the bottom of the cistern which started leaking and had to be renewed.
Rusty.
We had this problem with the previous toilet, so since fitting this one we have used descaler blocks in the cistern. When it rots the rubbers (hasn't yet) they are easy enough to replace. ;)
Lee
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Except with the application of the bog brush...
Yes, that'll be it.
[fx: thinks] So the water is meant to travel around the rim and *then* enter the bowl? So the problem lies at the front?Thanks everybody.
Golly! A Flash animation that's actually useful! See here:
there appears to be no siphon merely some sort of flap valve controlling the flush.
I seem to have just lost a post on a similar topic. I think that under mad European legislation we will all have to use non-syphon flushes eventually. These tend to dribble continuously once the seals have worn a bit.
Rusty
Which will make the scaling problem worse then :(
Lee
Mary Pegg wrote in news:Z6x7e.806 $ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net:
I'm experimenting at the moment with dosing my cistern with small metered amounts of spirits of salt (hydrochloric acid), on each flush
The concentration is extremely low, and I think, not harmful; time will tell.
It appears to be working, the limescale I removed has not yet reformed - I left a bit of scale on, but it hasn't disappeared - yet?
mike
Ours did this. At the bottom of the pipe connecting the cistern to the bowl there was a plastic widget attached. This threw the water out around the rim. It had come off.
I pushed it back on, but it came off again a week or three later, so the second time a little superglue was used.. It was fine after that.
You can't get at this widget very easily (and, indeed, your loo might be different.) I could _see_ it by using a mirror and looking up under the back of the rim. To actually fix it, had to free the loo from the floor and shuffle it forwards a little. Lovely job :-)
Andrew.
This reminds me of a concern I had about the condensate drain from a condensing boiler. Mine goes off into a Victorian sewer pipe which very rarely has anything else going down one length of it. I did wonder if the constant exposure to the acidity might harm the cement between the glazed pipe sections. I'm not sure what type of cement this will be in a 1900 sewer.
This makes me think of another idea -- how about running the condensate into the toilet cistern if it's the type which overflows down the pan? That would probably remove any limescale problem over quite a short time.
Very much like the Fluidmaster valve, but the links lower down to Faucet this and that do suggest usanian origins.
Well, I haven't got a condensing boiler, but if you've acid condensate handy it might be a good idea.
But like the OP, my problem is inaccessible scaling in the flush channels, and that's what the acid dosing will hopefully correct, but it has to go into the cistern and be flushed, not just overflow down the pan, which is relatively easily to descale, specially if occasionally someone accidentally drops a small amount of acid in overnight
mike
Well, the site is very much usanian.
I am now more familiar with the workings of my toilet. More than I used to be, probably more than I really want to be. There aren't holes in the rim, just a shelf sort of arrangement, far as I can work out:
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Ours had come off the end of the pipe. I couldn't get it back on without removing the toilet, but could tell that it was loose by poking my finger up the back of the loo rim (ugh!) - it wobbled.
I reckon on mine it's moulded into the ceramic itself.
Anyone got recommendations for domestic water softeners?
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