Does anyone else really hate this time of year?
Wanted to finish an outside job today, would have been happy to work till
6:30 but couldn't see a bloody thing by 5pm.Makes the day seem so much longer.
I reckon I've got that seasonal affective disorder thingy.
Heh!
Try Aberdeen. You might think the few hunderd miles further north is negligible in the global scheme of things, but it makes a significant difference.
When I worked offshore, I was often on the Shell Northen platforms: North Cormorant, Eider etc. To get there, it's one hour north from Aberdeen to Sumburgh in Shetland by fixed-wing aircraft, then another hour north by helicopter from Sumburgh.
If you worked a night shift in winter, you'd not see daylight for weeks. For that matter, even on a day-shift around mid-winter, the sun would just briefly pop up over the southern horizon.
Who cares about daylight in Aberdeen? Not me. I agree completely with TMH and think we in England should stay on summertime and preferably double summertime all year round
If people in Aberdeen dont like the amount of light available then they should either move south or have a Scotland only GMT . What on earth is devolution for? I can see no good reason why we in the south have to pander to Scottish sensibilities on this one
Anna The Grumpy old Woman
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NO. I love it. Its the only time of year I can breathe and smell things.
Feel free. Go on. Knock yourself out. Really.
I never said I didn't like it. I was just providing an interesting data point for comparison.
There's the plus side of long summer evenings, where we can go climbing or other outdoor persuits till 10pm.
I'm not asking you to. Like I said, go right ahead.
I once had the misfortune to have to work with a loud mouthed know it all. Another work colleague and myself thought and talked on a higher plane than his brow beating conversations. Getting a lot brassed off with him one day, I looked at my other colleague and gave him the nod that there was going to be something coming from me.
Changing the subject completely from his chosen one, I asked him where does the sun rise.
'In the East', was his reply.
And where does it set?
'In the West' was his reply.
When I tried to tell him that during the summer, it rises towards the North East and sets towards the North West. Then when I told him that in winter, the sun rises in the South East and sets in the South West, you could see his blood vessels thicken before his argument that this could not be, as everyone knew that the sun came up from the East and set in the West.
Next day I got a piece of chalk and a dust bin lid and drew a compass on the concrete floor. This was because, before we got into conversation about where the sun got to in the sky, I had asked him which direction North was. He looked up to an over head crane and said that it told him that North was that away etc. The crane had N E S and W marked on so as to tie up with the controls hanging below it.
Talk about a neanderthal man :-)
Dave
In message , Anna Kettle writes
Don't they have northern lights in old Aberdeen ?
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I've always had a major respect for you and your contribution to this NG, but this comment is the sort of tripe that so often comes from people south of the border.
What I really find concerning is that I have always taken you as an intelligent person who would not come away with some emotionally driven outpouring without verifying the accuracy of information on which it exists. Why on earth do you think that the Scots are any different from yourselves in their attitude towards changing the clocks - it is an illogical anachronism from a bygone era when we didn't have the mobile lighting that we have now. We all hate it and Ron's email is just saying so.
Regretably I fear that the so-called Common Market would have a say if the UK went it's own way and stuck to BST, but I can assure you that it would get just as much support north of the border as south of it.
Rob
Don't tell the Goverment, they'll want to tax it !!! Dave
Always thought Hadrian didn't build that wall high enough :-)
Yehbut you get those lovely long days in the summer.
Well I agree with Anna. Anyway I always thought the clock change logic was supposed to be about farming at a given latitude, not about north/south. I liked the double summertime experiment. And the argument that this would cut road accidents makes sense to me.
Indeed. I worked on the construction of the power station at Sullom Voe in the Shetlands islands at the end of the seventies. 28 days on, a basic 70 hour working week, living on a construction camp and as you said; barely saw daylight for months during the winter. Those were the days.
-- Nige Danton
Nah. It was because of Childrunna.Walking to school in the dark. Getting knocked over by Rampant Motorists, who are Toad like creetchas that rush around going 'poop poop'.
It was more than teachers could handle simply starting school at 8pm instead on 9pm in the summer, so they changed the clocks instead.
Famers dont do clocks. They are up at 4 am largely, out at the crack of wdawn, and r7ound here, harvestng till 2am sometimes. Until the moisture content goes off the acceptable level, due to dew, anyway.
Allergies.
Full of midges and still not warm.
There's a good bit of England north of the wall. Some of Cumberland and most of Northumberland. The Border isn't where lots of people think it is. The wall is fully in England.
As for (double) Summer time all year - I'm for it. Apart from anything else it would stop us having to mess about with clocks twice a year. (Are there any central heating controllers with good radio controlled clocks?)
Edgar
Changing the clock time does not give more daylight. It simply moves what is available around a bit. The government want to move it to stop children having accidents in the afternoon, when it is dark. More rubbish, I think that it is more likely they would have accidents in the morning dark going to school, when lots of motorists are still half asleep, or hung over! As pointed out clock changes don't affect farmers, after all their animals can't tell the time. The use of double Summer time during the war was to save power in factories and houses, as it stayed light further into the evening.
I don't usually get into these discussions but - as I seem to be turning into a 'grumpy old man' ...
There is no 'extra' day light as pointed out above (seems to be a common misunderstanding of something) from my somewhat oafish point of view it would seem logical for the sun to be due South (more of less - allowing for equation of time etc.) at around mid-day (noon, 12:00) So as we are on the 0 meridian that means we should be using GMT (now more correctly called UTC) as our 'local' time. Note I am NOT suggesting that Bristol and Great Yarmouth have different time zones -although their (true) local time does differ.
My vote would be leave the clocks on GMT 9our natural local time) and stop all this mucking about!
Just my 2d's worth.
Nomad
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