As some of you will know, I have the task of doing the bathroom over
Now, she wants it done properly and I want to bodge it and tell her I have
done it properly.
Currently the room is part tiled (about 3/4 on 2 walls) with mosac tiles
which seem pretty flat. These will no doubt ruin the wall when they come
off. So naturally I want to tile over them and not have to replaster my
bathroom over christmas when I should be eating Turkey and pickle
We want to fully tile the room. So how do I make up the gap between where I
am going over tiles to where I am on plaster ie the 4mm thick or so of mosac
tiles. My ideas are
1. screw (in lots of places) 4mm weatherboard ply onto the wall, wash it
with PVA and tile on that beast? This part of wall won't be in direct
contact with water, but we do like a hot shower. I will be using waterproof
tile and grout.
2. bodging up the gap with plaster? - something I don't want to do...
Any ideas / past exeriances would be much appreciated!
This may not help, but (!):
The previous owners of our house had this problem. They solved it in a
novel way. They battened and boarded over the tiles, but only over the
tiles. Then they tiled the lot, and fitted a moulding over the resulting
50mm gap betwen the edge of the raised area and the main wall. This runs
all round the bathroom and is great for keeping things on!
I recently removed some tiles round a window that I'd replaced. The
plaster was relatively new - about 20 years old - and the tiles fixed with
ordinary wall tile stuff. I wanted to keep as many of them intact as
possible, and used a thin filling knife to remove them. With very little
damage to the plaster. Mosaic tiles tend to be quite strong, and don't
break like ordinary ones.
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They might not ruin the wall (some damage is obviously likely, but it
doesn't have to resemble John Prescotts chins).
I have a bathroom to retile after the new year, and I've already taken
about half the tiles off. The adhesive for the existing tiles couldn't
have been very good because virtually all of the tiles I've taken off
came away easily, leaving the usual wavy lines of adhesive on the wall
(and very little adhesive on the back of the tiles).
I don't know how much effort is going to be required to smooth out and
remove the old adhesive. I'm kind of hoping it'll be a simple job if
the adhesive was that poor at holding the tiles on in the first place!
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I would try removing a square foot of the mosaics. Wet thoroughly
half-an-hour before removing, as if the grout/adhesive is non-waterproof,
this will make a huge difference.
If this takes less than a couple of minutes and does no damage, then you're
In my case, it took a whole day to remove the tiles, which were clearly
attached with some fiendish concoction of Araldite, Superglue and
chewing-gum, and then another day to finally give up on saving one stud
partition wall, remove and replace the plasterboard. Very handy in the end
though, as this was the wall with all the electrics (shaver point, mirror
light, heater) as well as the shower, and having the wall down saved a lot
of messing about.
If you leave them on, I would personally recommend plastering to make up the
4mm. Use a "one-coat" plaster which will easily do the 4mm in one go (don't
make it too runny), and you're not bothered about the finish, so no
plastering rocket-science involved. Won't take you long at all. I've
levelled pre-tiling irregularities of over 10mm this way before.
Think of me, I'll be *laying* bloody mosaic tiles in my bathroom, which is
no fun at all.
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