These quarry tiles are a bit chunky

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somewhat chunkier than I expected. Are they normally that thick (about

20mm)?

They do come up *very* easily with an SDS and a cranked wide chisel. Easier than the bl**dy worktop came out - that was well and truely wedged between the wall and the airing cupboard.

Generally 'twas a good day at the Bungalow - got 8 hours straight in today, brought all the right tools down, no faffing. Got the rest of the kitchen ripped out and saved the better cupboards for re-use somewhere else:

Bit in the middle is my new workbench :)

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the original decor(!):

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curses to that gas pipe - right where a new wall is going. Didn't expect it to meander round the left hand wall. Looks like I'll be getting into gas a bit sooner than expected.

I have a gas question brewing, but I'm off the read the gas FAQ again, then I'll ask it...

Cheers

Tim

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Tim S
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The Medway Handyman

Is that Alveston as in

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?

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www.GymRatZ.co.uk

Don't throw the quarry tiles away, they are worth 50p each at the salvage yard.

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chudford

No probs here.

MBQ

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Man at B&Q

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coughed up some electrons that declared:

[reply aimed at Dave TMH too]

No, it's exactly as I posted...

Can you ping 81.2.78.41?

If not, there's a routing problem between our two ISPs, or you got unlucky and tried when my ADSL fell over.

If you can, must be a DNS problem - I'd like to look into that so any feedback would be helpful.

Webserver's running at home off ADSL.

Cheers

Tim

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Tim S

chudford coughed up some electrons that declared:

Indeed - even better, as they are the originals from the 50's when the house was built, I'm going to keep them and reuse them as a small feature somewhere in the garden. They're coming out because as you can see they've been rather abused with adhesive from those crappy yellow tiles and room layout modifications mean that I'd be unlikely to be able to repair a layout using them very well. But for outside, if they look a bit rough that'll probably be OK.

Cheers

Tim

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Tim S

no

Doesn't look like DNS: see tracert results below.

Tracing route to mothra.dionic.net [81.2.78.41] over a maximum of 30 hops:

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neverwas

neverwas coughed up some electrons that declared:

My ADSL router

My firewall+internal router

How odd... The web server in question hasn't been down in the last few days and you make it as far as my internal router (a Linksys, reloaded with my own cut of OpenWRT).

The mystery deepens.

Thanks for the very detailed diagnostic - later, when I'm back home, I'll have a look at my logs.

I need to rebuild my router and web server anyway, but even so, this should not be happening...

Cheers

Tim

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Tim S

No I mean the village Alveston, South glos. where I have spent the first

25 years of my life. :¬)

Pinging 81.2.78.41 with 64 bytes of Data: Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Request timed out !!! Packets: Sent = 5, Received = 0, Lost = 5 (100% loss)

Could be a Be*/O2 network problem, My secondary DNS which is set to openDNS kicked in earlier in place of the Be* DNS server.

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www.GymRatZ.co.uk

No problem at all from here!

11/20/08 12:08:42 Fast traceroute 81.2.78.41 Trace 81.2.78.41 ... 1 10.0.1.1 1ms 1ms 1ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 2 10.151.228.1 9ms 12ms 9ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 3 62.253.122.5 11ms 8ms 28ms TTL: 0 (rdng-t2cam1-a-ge93.network.virginmedia.net ok) 4 195.182.178.101 12ms 12ms 10ms TTL: 0 (winn-t3core-1a-ge-014-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 5 62.253.184.113 15ms * 9ms TTL: 0 (win-bb-a-so-130-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 6 62.253.185.137 16ms 14ms 16ms TTL: 0 (man-bb-b-so-110-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 7 213.105.64.21 19ms 22ms 22ms TTL: 0 (nth-bb-a-so-220-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 8 62.253.185.118 17ms 19ms 35ms TTL: 0 (nth-bb-b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 9 62.253.184.2 22ms 24ms 20ms TTL: 0 (tele-ic-1-as0-0.network.virginmedia.net ok) 10 195.66.225.36 19ms 21ms 18ms TTL: 0 (ge-1-3-0-309.picasso.as34270.net probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 11 85.91.232.2 361ms 23ms 25ms TTL: 0 (ge-3-0-0-0.raphael.as34270.net probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 12 85.91.232.30 34ms 19ms 19ms TTL: 0 (no-dns-yet.inetc.co.uk probable bogus rDNS: No DNS) 13 213.161.69.150 30ms 24ms 24ms TTL: 0 (abovenet.aimless.aaisp.net.uk ok) 14 81.187.81.72 47ms 23ms 24ms TTL: 0 (careless.aaisp.net.uk ok) 15 81.2.78.28 64ms 64ms 68ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 16 81.2.78.46 55ms 79ms 78ms TTL: 0 (warpfield.dionic.net ok) 17 81.2.78.41 74ms 64ms 81ms TTL: 52 (mothra.dionic.net ok)

As you can see, I too am within virginmedia.net, thought it might be the same.

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Ah. No, it's the house name. The village is Robertsbridge, East Sussex.

Hmm. That wouldn't affect a ping-by-IP. The only other thing is whether the routing for my netblock is missing from someone's core routers, but neverwas could ping my router, so the netblock is available to some people...

Can you ping 81.2.78.46, or even do a traceroute/tracepath/tracert to it?

I have an offsite account at Imperial College and that's able to reach my server.

I've seen a couple of mail servers recently that couldn't contact me - I must look into this...

Cheers

Tim

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Tim S

neverwas coughed up some electrons that declared:

Hi, You may not be on this IP anymore, but, from my webserver:

ping osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net PING osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net (62.30.144.129) 56(84) bytes of data.

64 bytes from osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net (62.30.144.129): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=37.9 ms 64 bytes from osr01dals-v11.network.virginmedia.net (62.30.144.129): icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=35.0 ms

Hang on, let me reboot my core router in case it's having trouble...

Done. Might be worth trying again.

Sorry for the buggering about, been reliable until recently.

Cheers

Tim

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Tim S

I can't on sky.

Tracing route to 81.2.78.46 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 36 ms 43 ms 35 ms cr1.cmtip.uk.easynet.net [195.189.159.91] 3 32 ms 31 ms 30 ms 82.111.105.129 4 35 ms 36 ms 35 ms be2.er10.thlon.ov.easynet.net [195.66.224.43] 5 37 ms 33 ms 34 ms ge3-0.pr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [195.66.224.76] 6 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms abovenet.aimless.aaisp.net.uk [213.161.69.150] 7 35 ms 35 ms 36 ms careless.aaisp.net.uk [81.187.81.72] 8 71 ms 67 ms 72 ms 81.2.78.28 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 ^C

Their dns gives up too.

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dennis

traceroute to 81.2.78.46, 30 hops max through WAN1 1 Request timed out. * 2 10.1.1.13 20 ms 3 213.161.72.69 20 ms 4 90.155.53.2 20 ms 5 81.187.81.72 20 ms 6 81.2.78.28 60 ms 7 Request timed out. * 8 Request timed out. * Trace complete.

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Tracert from here as before ends with

15 60 ms 69 ms 53 ms 81.2.78.28 16 58 ms 60 ms 70 ms warpfield.dionic.net [81.2.78.46] 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 *

I note that I and Dennis, who had problems, are behind routers (presumably both NAT routers) while Rod, who didn't. isn't. Have you configured your router to require more than the usual? (Please note the careful drafting to conceal the fact that my ignorance of TCP/IP is near-immaculate.)

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neverwas

dennis@home coughed up some electrons that declared:

I can't ping or traceroute that ^^^ from either home or work (Zen) or Imperial College, the latter we may assume have a solid connection to the net.

ping 82.111.105.129 PING 82.111.105.129 (82.111.105.129) 56(84) bytes of data. From 82.111.105.129 icmp_seq=5 Packet filtered

All I can assume is that there is something weird going on(!).

OK - to avoid wasting time, try this:

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they don't work, it's almost certainly your ISP ;->

But, worrying, all the same - I have a decent ISP, or so I thought...

Cheers

Tim

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Tim S

neverwas coughed up some electrons that declared:

Not especially - firewall rules are mostly port based and not clever... Shouldn't make any difference as it appears to me that your connections come from a public IP associated with the NAT gateway.

Unless some ISPs are trying to be clever and block connections to netblocks associated with ADSL, but as far as I'm concerned that's broken behaviour...

I can get to home from work and that's a NAT'ed connection too...

Weird.

Reply to
Tim S

Sorry to disabuse you of that - I *am* behind a router! (Apple Airport Extreme, and then, of course, ex-NTL cable modem.)

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Rod

That's good from here. Is that a real-life 1970's serving hatch?

:¬)

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