A bath filling option sometimes suggested is to use a diverter
from the thermostatic shower valve to a Grohe Talentofill, or
similar. I know this would need a high pressure system.
Has anybody tried this and been pleased, or otherwise, with the
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
I've got the Hansgrohe version, the Exafill, sitting in my garage
awaiting the forthcoming bathroom refit. If noone replies before, and
you can wait that long, I'll post back once it's up and running.
This may not be of much help, but.......
We now have two bathrooms run off the same shower pump.
In the original bathroom we had an Aqualisa thermostatic mixer shower
installed, and decided to have the bath taps (individual) also plumbed into
the shower pump. This fills the bath pretty rapidly, although the force of
water can lift the plug out of the plughole when the bath is nearly empty,
and the little plastic filter/frother things in the taps can get blown out
into the bath by the force of the water. However this works fine. All you
don't get is automatic temperature control.
In the new bathroom we have fitted a Triton Tay thermostatic mixer which is
a combined bath tap and shower mixer (you can also get these from e.g.
Aqualisa but the Triton was a very good price). This works fine both as a
shower and as a bath filler.
So if you don't already have the shower installed then there are other
Given the experience with our Triton Tay (which is basically an all-in-1
version of what you are proposing to build from several bits) I should think
that you should get good results.
I tried to work out what the Talentofill does - where the inputs are, how
many etc. - but it is still not clear to me.
aperture. Looks like a slightly deeper fitting, and must have
connections for single inlet, overflow and pop-up waste.
If we get really carried away, might go for 3-way diverter
feeding wall mounted shower, bath outlet plus one of those
slimline shower heads that retract into the bath side (though I
have only seen those as part of 3 or 4-hole sets) for SHMBO to
rinse her hair.
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
I have the Talentofill fitted with the Grohe Thermo Mixer, cant
rememeber the model no. My system is mains pressure form two 50l
immersion tanks (i live in Malta) I would never go back to to a normal
bath mixer now. The mixer has two positions bath and shower, switch to
bath and the bath filLs in about 3mins at the right temp with no
messing about with hot and cold taps. Another advantage is if you
have children, there are no hot parts to touch in the bath as the
talentofil covers the inlet point.
If you haven't bought the mixer yet, then try to get the one withbath
divertor built in ,ive just checked i'm using Grohetherm 3000
I also ran the system with a pump(stuart turner monsoon) for a couple
of weeks, but the pump noise irritated SWMBO, so I switched the system
to mains, but it operated just as well pumped as it does with mains
pressure. The main advantage to the mains system is 3 showers can be
running at anytime with no descernable drop in pressure.
another point to consider is maybe buying from France or elsewhere in
Europe, as all my Grohe fittings, 3xGrohetherm 3000 mixers 2x
eurobasin taps 3xshower raisers 8xbody jets 2xtalentofils came to a
total of 300 pounds, I dread to thInk of the cost in the UK.
up the wall like a normal concealed shower mixer. It has two controls,
one for temperature which also has a safety lock that you have to
depress to go above 38 degrees and a flow control which has three
positions -bath - off - Shower. In shower mode there is also a
release catch which is set at about 1/3rd flow, you have to press a
small lever to go above this preset flowrate. The Talentofil, which
fits in the overflow hole, is connected to the mixer by one 3/4" pipe,
it also contols the pop up waste and has builtin overflow. inside the
Talentofil the incoming water is split into a long, about 2" oval
opening, and over this clips a fine mesh to aerate the water, so even
at full pressure and full flow the water does not hit the bottom of
the bath and shoot up the other side, which is exactly what happens if
you don't fit it. DAMHIK!
One thing to be wary of, is that ther are different versions of the
talentofil for different types of baths. The one on our corner bath
has a longer connection to reach the plughole than the one on our
The concealed mixer also has another outlet which can be used with a
seperate flow valve, ie for body jets or a second shower head.
I hope thats all as clear.
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