That's hard work for an electrician.

If you are working, it is incredibly useful to be able to come home to a casserole that is just getting ready to take out of the oven, although, these days, I would probably use the slow cooker instead.

Colin Bignell

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Nightjar
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My father used to be a rep for Tricity/Bendix. We had loads of bits lying around that came out of cookers (or were 'spares').

For years I had one of the mechanical clocks in a woodne box with a 13A socket and flying lead with a 13A plug on the end. For a while I had it connected to an old battery/mains radio as an alarm clock.

I also had another radio built from cooker 'spares':

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Bob Eager

No. You send the daemon a SIGHUP and it rereads. If it rereads by rewinding the existing filehandle and rereading (rather than reopening the file name), the filehandle will be a handle to the *old* file.

I have to say, keeping the config file open seems barking to me.

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Martin Bonner

Many years ago we spent a fruitless afternoon trying to get a simple two c omputer wired network work under Windows 3. Tried everything, every which w ay. No Joy. Sat back and said lets start from the very beginning. IS comput er A connected to computer B ? Bollix

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fred

Gas powered ?

On a related note, when we moved in, there was a pull cord by the kitchen sink which did **** all. The light for the sink had a switch on the wall.

When I changed that light (incandescent) for a fluorescent tube, I took the opportunity to look in the loft (it's a bungalow) and discovered the switch was not - and judging from the clean terminals - had not ever been connected to anything.

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Jethro_uk

When I was about 12, I rigged up a bedroom light timer (to the mains) from an old central heating timer.

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Jethro_uk

Ideal for playing the Hot 100 .

G.Harman

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damduck-egg

We did actually have one of the cookers for a few years...

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Bob Eager

And that presupposes that there *is* a way to send a SIGHUP. On Win7 I couldn't find a way to do that for apache. So no obvious way to rotate apache's log files.

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Tim Streater

TNP did say _Unix_ configuration files, even if what he meant was apparently configuration files for one specific daemon which had barking config file handling. Obviously well behaved daemons don't care what editor you use.

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Alan Braggins

On my FreeBSD systems, I use an editor that writes a fresh file, and I've never had any problems. Apart from the cron daemin, which reads the file so frequently it's probably best to keep it open.

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Bob Eager

It would have had to be bottle gas ... or maybe sewer gas from the unterminated pipes below the sink.

Owain

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spuorgelgoog

Extension lead connected to a street light?

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dennis

replying to ARW, tahrey wrote: Sounds about par for the course for a similar job I used to do. I rationalised it as just not being the sort of thing the usual complainants were expert, or even novice-level in, as their heads were full of all kinds of other academic stuff, much of which was (from what I saw of their powerpoints) essentially all greek to me in its turn. Didn't stop me occasionally cussing them under my breath on busier days, or when the weather was bad and the most direct route involved going outdoors ;-)

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tahrey

replying to Bill, tahrey wrote: ...and that's the sort of thing that led to me taping over several isolator switches to lock them in the "on" position, with a printed sticky label saying "DO NOT TURN OFF EXCEPT IN EMERGENCIES", because the proportion of call-outs caused by some over-eager energy saver or safety freak turning them off and sabotaging the intent of following users (often coming along mere minutes later) without sufficient secret knowledge to use the room started getting ridiculous. Plus the energy saving was negligble (computer, projector etc on standby used a couple of watts all up, paling in comparison vs the similar proportion of users who didn't bother to shut down either machine at all, or the ceiling lights that were routinely left lit even when the isolators were turned off, and unlikely to compensate for the additional electrical stress of the mains being applied and removed and any spiking from operation of the manual switch, or indeed the eventual wearing-out of the switch itself, which is technically only there to isolate machinery from the mains when someone such as myself needed to remove covers to service it), and the safety benefits absolutely non-existent (machinery just doesn't randomly catch on fire these days, everything was fused and connected to RCDs, and it was probably a bigger risk that the switch might wear out and not turn off properly when needed).

I was sore tempted to cover it over with a molly-guard type cover with a laminated A4 card nailed on the front spelling all that out and telling them to stop being so daft and wasting the time of the service staff, other academics, and their students... but apparently that sort of thing is looked on quite dimly.

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tahrey

replying to Jethro_uk, tahrey wrote: ..and THAT sort of thing (plus the cereal packet vs isolator one) is why I would always attend even the daftest sounding callout once a brief bit of over the phone triage had been tried and failed. Because the end users don't always know what you're talking about on the phone, and familiarity can be a killer because you end up seeing what you expect to see, and it needs a fresh pair of eyes... and it applies just as much to the techs like myself, there is no such thing as "can't happen", and as soon as you start making assumptions you run the risk of falling into such a trap yourself. Plus there's always the chance that something *really weird* is going on, which doesn't trip the usual warning signs or turn off obvious indicator lights etc... like that one time one of my colleagues accidentally took down the entire network by connecting both ends of a network cable into the wall (and two computers to each other, though that wasn't as lethal), and it took several hours for an entire office of techs to uncover the fault because there wasn't anything obvious from all the usual checks... (in fact, it took someone going to disconnect one of the most recently "connected" PCs in case they were spewing garbage out of their network cards, tracing the cable back to the wall to make things neat, and finding that the other end was another PC, whereupon the penny dropped)

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tahrey

And five years later.

Most of those schoolgirls are now mums.

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ARW

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