Tap and Die Set

[polygonum]

I have long taken that as referring to a wire-drawing die - rather than threaded sort. Not heard of a wire-drawing tap. (Wine- or beer-drawing, yes!) :-)

[polygonum]

If I didn't have other calls on money as well, I might agree. We each have to find our own price/quality points. And if I get an adequate set, but find that the 4mm tap breaks or whatever after fair use, I might consider a higher quality replacement.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Quite. Many of the 'top brands' rely on tool snobbery for their high price

- the quality often doesn't justify it.

[fred]

VEBLEN

[Man at B&Q]

Try a proper engineering or model engineering supplier such as

, or even Axminster.

MBQ

[polygonum]

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Good to learn new words!

"The quality remains long after the price is forgotten." :-)

However, many people remember:

Being made bankrupt by paying far too much for something they could not afford.

Being made a complete idiot by someone grossly over-selling and over-charging.

Being unable to use their amazing super-whatsit because spare parts are unavailable/cost too much.

Managing to buy something that works perfectly well for them at a decent price - and keeping the significant price difference in their pocket.

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

I've found the taps and dies fine in the Lidl set, but the tap holder isn't great. It's not as bad as some cheap crap, but not great. Luckily, I have a decent tap holder I'd bought or acquired some decades ago, when decent quality was taken for granted.

[polygonum]

Thanks.

I mentioned Axminster in my original post.

Chronos have lots of sets. Almost all are UNC, UNF, BSW, BSF, BSP, NPT, BA, mixed. I really only want metric. And the only suitable set in a technical sense is way over my price band.

[Man at B&Q]

"buy cheap, buy twice."

=93The pleasure of a low price is short-lived, but the recollection of poor service will last a lifetime=94

MBQ

[whisky-dave]

Well taps dance ;-)

I thought the die in this case reffered to a single die where dice is 2 die, in that a single dice shoukld be totally random and 'honest' when thrown in a game. Obviously not wieghted in any way

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

No, not quite. There were possibly a couple of occasions where, if the money was available, I might have.

See above, but I usually spot a shyster sales weasel.

Hmm... been caught by that, but not at the top end of the market.

Yes. And freeing up money for more much-needed gadgets.

[Harry Bloomfield]

I bought the same set a couple of years ago, no complaints here.

[Nightjar]

As whisky-dave says, it is the other sort of die - a cube with dots on each face. An alternative form is true as a die.

Colin Bignell

[polygonum]

But that spoils the beer & wine comment. :-(

I can go along with "smooth as a die" - but why the switch over to Straight (apparently in the USA)?

[Nightjar]

Presumably from true => honest => straight, as in 'going straight'.

Colin Bignell

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

Probably half a groat, or an apprentice's wages.

[Rick Hughes]

Look at eBay and also Adtrader ... My local Technical College has closed its workshops - everything sold off .... my neighbour just bought a decent Lathe and a mint condition Horizontal milling machine .....

I have a pedestal grinder and may yet get a fairly chunky pillar drill

[Rick Hughes]

a tool steel as a minimum.

Also just took a look on eBay the problem with most of the sets is that they are die nuts ... OK for cleaning up a damaged thread, but you need a proper split die to cut new threads.

[tony sayer]

Grr!", they were clearing out a works dept at a local hospital some while ago, there was a tasty Edward's trucut guillotine there quite a small one and bending press.. Asked if they were throwing them out could I have them? Yep sure no problem it seemed..

Works manager changed just before they closed, all went out in a skip;((...