True, I spent years writing 5 year business plans which were a waste of time. If you can get the next 6 months correct you are doing well. As has been said "events dear boy, events"!
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Sterling prices.
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On 17-Jun-16 11:21 AM, Capitol wrote: ...
You appear to be suffering from Harryitis - a belief that repeating nonsense often enough will transform it into truth.
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Only some of our markets are in the EU. The amount of UK takeover activity indicates that investment is continuing with very little change. Merger activity is forecast to reduce next year as a result of global concerns, not Brexit.
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To remain is to be governed by Brussels, you can't dispute that!
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good to see that you have such a high opinion of the group of which, I believe, you are a member
The future is obviously bright
tim
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If the nutcases on here get their way, all EU workers will be sent home immediately. Including those managers etc at the BMW plants in the UK.
Of course this won't happen. But then you'd have to decide who will be forced to go and who allowed to stay. On an individual basis. Including appeals, expect it to go on for years. The lawyers will be rubbing their hands.
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Ah "the emotional narrative".
That wouldn't have anything to do with that poster featuring your leader "El Farago" holding back those hordes of shifty looking migrants, by any chance would it ?
No of course not. No emotion being stirred up there at all.
Funny how you never mentioned anything about this "emotianal narrative" before though, given all these essays you're churning out by the hour.
Well since before the MP got shot, at least.
What's the betting it hasn't featured somewhere on the UKIP webite or similar in the last couple of days ?
"Impressive sounding phrases to use, so as to try and convince other people that not all UKIP supporters are knuckle dragging racists.
no 8. "The emotional narrative"
michael adams
libertarianism (Turnipism) is the philosophy where the whole of society creates and maintains the conditions whereby a tiny minority of especially selfish greedy and possibly unscupulous individuals are allowed to enrich themelves without limit at the expense of the other 95% of the population, and where that 95% are not only expected to roll over and lap it all up, but actually applaud them for it.
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No-one will be "sent home" (except the convicted criminals)
tim
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But not *direct access*.
That will be what makes China such a successful exporter?
According to those who know about such things, it could take 10 years to negotiate a new deal with the EU after leaving. Assuming we put all our effort into it. In other words, not negotiating with lots of other countries at the same time. As the outers say we will be doing. Not sure where all our specialist negotiators will come from - perhaps we could poach them from other countries? But they'd be nasty foreign immigrants...
Of course the outers will say this is rubbish. The EU will rush to make a new agreement with us. I'd say to them just look at how long negotiations have taken with Switzerland - and are still ongoing.
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If it's *so* important that trade deals exist, you'd expect countries/blocs would be under pressure to hasten negotiations? Yet negotiations are allowed to stall or proceed at snails pace, what does that say about their importance? The world still turns ...
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Do you honestly think those who see immigration as the main problem believe that?
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what does it matter what *they* believe?
You were making a point that the administrative process (for removing them) would be fraught
but there will be no administrative process
tim
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Not if we stop paying them!
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I see another negative view. Please try to find a positive view for remaining. No one else has managed to do so!
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It's not life or death for Switzerland.
It's not quite life or death for the EU given our trade with them only accounts for about 20% of their exports.
The EU accounts for about 45% of UK exports. Make up your own mind how important that is for the UK. And how long you'd be willing to accept a considerably reduced standard of living until (and if) the UK establishes new markets.
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With the polls being so close, actually quite a lot.
Perhaps Mr Farage etc would make it absolutely clear that no existing EU immigrants (other than convicted criminals) will be sent home if we exit, then? And no new ones allowed in after that vote either?
I'll give you a clue. Pigs might fly.
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The obvious positive view is that remaining is a lot less hassle.
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I don't believer that "we" will be considerably worse off
whilst GDP may reduce by 5% over a period, the possibility that we will no longer have an an extra 200,000 EU immigrants each year means that the population growth over the same period will be 5% less.
So the per capita GDP will remain much the same, and normal individuals will be unaffected
the people who will be worse off in this scenario are the bosses who would have employed those extra 5%
No wonder they are so keen for us to remain
tim
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Obviously it matters for the referendum
but it WAS irrelevant to the point that you were making.
Perhaps Mr Osborne could stop pretending that he will put up taxes to punish us for voting to leave.
tim
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There is far more informed opinion that we will be worse off that than the other way. Especially in the short term - say the next 5 years or so.
Of course we believe what we want to.
That would depend on whether you believe immigrants are a drain on the economy or a benefit too it. Nothing to do with the social issues.
You're assuming there will be the same amount of jobs around to be filled by UK residents currently unemployed?
Interesting you take that in isolation. Doesn't matter if any business is forced to close down due to not being able to get suitable workers.
Very odd that suddenly capitalism isn't the best way for the country. That's not going to go down well with most of the outers.