Solar panels - are FIT payments worth it? Generation FIT vs. export FIT

[harry]

Not the idle just continue to whinge.

[T i m]

There must be some that aren't the charity of harry?

RNLI. Salvation Army?

Cheers, T i m

[Tim Streater]

And that cost is quite substantial.

But until a way is found to convert spare wind and solar to some other form, they're not very useful.

[T i m]

Mate, could you try a little harder to come up with something better and more parallel / relevant please? Your attempt to distract from your own selfish position is again noted.

FWIW, no, I don't use any of those but even if I did, I am also a TAX / Ratepayer and happy to contribute to something that we ALL could use (and no one profits over).

The only person really benefiting from your solar PV system is YOU. YOU are being paid, over the odds by me and all the other electricity users for electricity you generate and USE YOURSELF! How can you even start to think you can ever justify that position?

Now, I'm more than happy to pay you the going rate for your highly unpredictable surplus power generation, but ONLY at the current commercial going rate.

So, if you actually want to try to claw back any credibility here, please try to present the actual truth. You consider taking money from those who in many cases can't really afford it and do so as some form of income is IMHO, immoral, unethical and disgusting.

Do the right thing and request you be taken off the current / bent FIT system and only be paid for the energy you actually EXPORT. Then you might just gain some respect (from me anyway). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[harry]

It's return on capital invested.

Benefits is paid to tossers who are either thick or idle. With the possible exception of some disabled.

[Tim Streater]

Drugs dealers make a return on capital invested, too.

[T i m]

Yup, just an income stream to you ... or you wouldn't have done it in the first place or be boasting how much it earns you (off the backs of others, many less fortunate). At least income tax or rates burdens those paying it in a proportionate way.

Or, more correctly, it is a benefit that people draw that is generally paid for by others for doing nothing. Exactly like your FIT payments in fact!

So, what exactly did you do *personally* re the fitting of your solar PV system and what part do you *personally* play on a day to day basis to 'earn' the money you are getting from the rest of us electricity users, apart from boast how much it 'earns' you that is?

(Earning is normally the reward you receive in return for your efforts)

Had it just saved you money then you probably wouldn't have so much animosity towards you from those of us who see what you are party to as being immoral.

Cheers, T i m

[damduck-egg]

That will be almost everybody then as over their life many will have received a payment that increased their spending power compared to somebody receiving exactly the same wage/salary/pension for doing the same job but whose circumstances did not qualify them for the payment. Many people your age look in askance at people receiving obvious benefits while conveniently forgetting things like Family allowance/child benefit that for 15 years or so they probably accepted willingly which enable them to spend on something like running a nice car from which they looked down on their work partner who hadn't yet bred who could only afford a banger. Don't know if you did have Children, perhaps you can be honest and let us know and whether to stick to your principles you didn't claim it( if that's possible) or gave it away. You must be of the age to qualify to for the Winter Fuel Payment, that is a benefit . What do you do with it? if you keep it that then in your own words that makes you thick or idle. Probably a bus pass as well but those can be of limited value if there are few buses.

G.Harman

[The Natural Philosopher]

I see you are half way to the realisation that all a socialist government does is take peoples money in taxes, subtract a bureaucratic commission, and give some of it back to them in the form of services they could have paid for themselves, inefficiently, and with politically correct strings attached.

[bert]

Think again.

[bert]

"The poor always pay more"

[bert]

I would regard a 15% reduction as quite significant.

[The Natural Philosopher]

I thought again. The North is worst. Horrible people, lousy weather and cold and full of flat caps and whippets.

[Davey]

Per Stephen Potter: "But not in the South..".

[T i m]

I knew it as '... and the poor get poorer.' but yours works better in this case (thanks to harry and his kind). ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

Nothing wrong with whippets ... (seems to be the std family pet for us). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[The Natural Philosopher]

Its the people who have the flat caps really.

[John Jackson]

That's a silly claim with the most important stuff like the roads, airports, health care, military, judicial system, cops etc. You wouldn?t be able to pay for those yourself.

Which might just be why even the Torys had govt do that stuff before socialism was even invented.

[Huge]

That argument can be blown out of the water with one word; supermarkets.

[John Jackson]

Hadn't noticed any cops, judicial system, armies, airports, roads and stuff like that on sale at any supermarket I have ever been in.