'Smoked' Salmond on toast

[Another John]

[A wonderful piece of analysis Richard: thanks for spotting that!] J.

[The Natural Philosopher]

:-)

[Nightjar]

Which is entirely irrelevant to whether or not what we have now is democratic.

In light of recent events, it may be time for a complete revision of government. In order to gain parity with the other countries in the Union, England should get its own assembly to control purely English matters. If there is merit in local accountability (and I am not convinced it has any effect), the four national assemblies could be voted for on the constituency system.

Above the national assemblies, there would be a UK parliament, to consider only those things that affect two or more countries of the Union. That could be smaller than the existing parliament and could be made up of MPs drawn from those voted into the national assemblies, in proportion to the overall number of votes each party received. With modern technology, there would also be scope for allowing the populace to have a say in some, if not all, major decisions.

[Adrian]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:40:17 +0100, Nightjar >> It would be far more democratic if each party got seats in Parliament

Democratic on a national level vs democratic on a local level. They're different, but both are democratic.

It certainly does - IF your local MP is any use. If he isn't, then wtf is he still in the job? If the answer to that is that the constituency party is useless, then why haven't the majority of that constituency who clearly support the party done anything about them?

And, imho, should be.

I could easily be convinced by that.

Oh, good. The X-factor...

[Nightjar]

The IOM, Jersey and Guernsey are all Crown Dependencies, although I think the IOM was the model they wanted to follow. That differs from the Channel Islands by being in a Customs Union with the UK and, through that, with the EU.

[Nightjar]

On 19/09/2014 14:55, Adrian wrote: ..

It would probably have prevented us from invading Iraq.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article , Nightjar In light of recent events, it may be time for a complete revision of

Only if for every job that *creates* within the civil service etc, one is lost from 'Westminster'. The last thing the country needs is more people doing unproductive jobs.

[PeterC]

If it'd been 'Yes', would Cameron have suggested another referendum in 20 years? Seems thet it goes on until the 'desired' answer is given and then stops.

[PeterC]

He only wanted to be president - give him a break (neck, prferably).

[PeterC]

Ah, he's really a LimpDim!

[Tim Streater]

Because these days it doesn't occur to people that they can go join the local party, and turn up at the AGM to vote. But local primaries would be better (if expensive). Several of those have been held.

[PeterC]

Seems that the number of Scots considering themselves British has risen by 9 percentage points from 15% to 24% in the last (? - can't remeber the time) years.

[Dennis Davis]

Isle of Wight. So the bloody Romans should have walled them off as well. Looks like the Solent isn't wide or deep enough!

[The Natural Philosopher]

Well smoked salmond NOW toast. He's gone, And the world is a better place.

[Jabba]

Happy now ?

[Richard]

Depends.

[Sam Plusnet]

Does the UK Govt. have a mandate for the major constitutional changes which are needed to give Scotland all these nice goodies?

I must have missed that bit.

[Huge]

I can feel my wallet aching already.

[Jabba]

"Nightjar wrote

And at 50 pence per call, the Goverment could have paid for dozens of duck houses.

[Jabba]

PeterC wrote

HTF would that work, what with them being a separate nation ?