Shed security

[nicknoxx]

Hello.

I've now got on the thinking about security for the shed.

The double doors are bolted with bolt top and bottom on both doors so reasonably secure.

I'm going to but bars up at the windows but haven't worked out the fine details of how they'll be fixed yet.

The single door has a bolt on it at the moment which isn't very satisfactory. I can't use a high security hasp because the door opens inwards and isn't flush with the outside edge. See:-

can I beef up security for this door?

Thanks

[Phil L]

That bolt wouldn't keep a small child out of the shed - there's 2 very small brass screws holding it on, so 20 seconds with a hand driver would see it come away, but even if someone forgot to pack their screwdriver, a small shove would split that few mm of wood holding the bolt in place!

There appears to be a deadlock near the handle, is this operational?

Bolts and padlocks are fairly secure provided they are fitted correctly - where the bolt goes into the frame, it needs some metalwork - you can buy flat steel bars with holes in them, about 3 feet long, these should be fixed inside the frame so that bolts and barrels aren't simply going into timber -anyone kicking the door in would have to kick this steel bar off too, also bolts should be bolted to the door, not screwed

[brass monkey]

• 2 coach bolts by the look of it.

so 20 seconds with a hand driver would see it

[brass monkey]

I thought I'd seen some cranked bolts so you could get more meat behind it, can't seem to find any. You could always space the bolt away from the door.

[nicknoxx]

Oh, yes.

[nicknoxx]

Good idea. It looks as if the bolt is right on the edge but it protrudes into the framework by 30mm so there's quite a bit of timber behind it, but steel reinforcement sound good.

[Tim Lamb]

In message , nicknoxx writes

I used 3/4" steel rod, heated and flattened at one end and drilled to take a 12mm coach bolt. The end left round fits into a hole drilled through the window surround (Oak) and into the building frame. I had intended to rout out some Oak to clad the steel as fancy mullions but the tuits haven't arrived.

easily defeated by prising the *hook* clear of the padlock.

I have used Chubb pad bars on my barns and padlocks with shoulders to protect from croppers. Your door stop does not allow this. I think the first move should be to reinforce the door frame with steel plating, pierced for the conventional lever lock fitted.

There are different versions of the bolt you have fitted available from BMs or Locksmiths. In the long thread on securing storage containers, the essence seemed to centre on shrouding the padlock in some way.

regards

[nicknoxx]

This is what I m concerned about. The hook is just about accessable to croppers and is clearly not significantly strong.

just found this which might help

[Tim Lamb]

bolt croppers and a 3' jemmy! The *eye* will project into the door opening unless rebated.

Out of reach visible alarm sounders are probably a good deterrent.

Agricultural outlets may be a good source of securable bolts.

regards