Screwfix and CORGI

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Tim S saying something like:

Indeed. I recall the last couple of recessions - some large companies realised they'd better start dealing with the small customers pronto. Those ones are still around and many of those smaller customers became larger as time passed. I've come across a couple of companies who wouldn't sell to me in recent months - hell mend them, for this coming downturn might screw their pooches properly.

[Owain]

Suppose you or a customer wanted the customer to buy the boiler - perhaps because they get a generous staff discount which makes the boiler cheaper than your trade price, or because you don't want the boiler purchase and resale going through your VAT accounts, or whatever

- but the boiler is still going to be fitted by you even though you're not buying it.

Owain

[Doctor Drivel]

You just need the qualifications. There are plenty of incompetent CORGI men. If you are incompetent you can be struck off. They act retrospectively. Qualifications is not proof of competence - it is judged by your actions. Qualifications means you can be registered to make money from gas work. Competence applies to CORGI and those practicing for no gain.

You don't need to be CORGI to work when doing voluntary work, or doing work for anyone for that matter.

[Lobster]

We experienced that last week at Costco (is that where you were?) while attempting to buy a lifetime's supply of ibuprofen for about 75p. What's all that about then? I'm guessing it's not just a company policy.

David

[Lobster]

I disagree, some of my best friends are black and Irish... ;-)

[Ed Sirett]

Quite. This is one reason why I don't like the idea of restricting gas fitting to the qualified.

Plumbcentre have gone down this route but they are no loss as they are expensive and unhelpful.

Screwfix is not where I buy boilers, but I don't like the direction.

Yes, I often offer a collect and fit service, this keeps me out of compulsory VAT registration and a 17.5% tax on my labour charges.

[Ed Sirett]

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Well more plausibly: Windows and doors : Fensa. Consumer units, outside, bathroom and kitchen electrics: PartP Gas Boilers: Part L and CORGI Oil Boilers: Part L and OFTEC

etc.etc.

[Ed Sirett]

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Very true.

It's the ACS exam passes that /certify/ competence.

[Ed Sirett]

That should make them wake up. I hope.

[fred]

Only 3 bits, gas fire, cooker and CH boiler. Installation receipts for each. Hmmm, now where can I keep them for when the place burns down.

[Roger Mills]

Are they allowed to discriminate by disability?

If not, are they breaking the law by discriminating against people who have the (perceived) disability to install gas equipment safely?

[Roger Mills]

Equally, suppose I have a friend who is Corgi registered and I get *him* to buy a boiler etc. from SF on my behalf for me to install?

In both cases, there's no direct correlation between the person who *buys* an appliance and the person who *installs* it. SF can only control the former - so their policy is pretty much a waste of time.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

But how about the pipework from the meter?

[Doctor Drivel]

Wrong. That gives someone a licence to practice gas work professionally if registered with CORGI. Nothing else.

If you are working on gas not for profit, ACS does not apply. CORGI and ACS only applies to people doing gas work for profit for the general public.

Read my other Posts. Competence is judged by your actions, it is reactive not proactive. ACS/CORGI does mean competence. That means you have a licence to work on gas for the general public and charge for services - your competence is judged by what you do, not by what tickets you have in your wallet.

[Steve Firth]

You can only buy if you run a retail outlet, not if you run some other form of business. It's something imposed by out wonderful government in the belief that restricting the sales of analgesics will prevent suicides.

[Doctor Drivel]

A CORRECTED TYPO....

Wrong. That gives someone a licence to practice gas work professionally if registered with CORGI. Nothing else.

If you are working on gas not for profit, ACS does not apply. CORGI and ACS only applies to people doing gas work for profit for the general public.

Read my other Posts. Competence is judged by your actions, it is reactive not proactive. ACS/CORGI does not mean competence. That means you have a licence to work on gas for the general public and charge for services - your competence is judged by what you do, not by what tickets you have in your wallet.

[The Medway Handyman]

Why don't we all send in complaints? That should wake them up even more!

[Owain]

And what about the pipework *to* the meter?

That can be pretty dodgy sometimes.

Owain

[fred]

Well that was installed when the house was built, under the concrete floors, not my responsibility (until it fails). I'm simply trying to avoid ANY possibility of an insurance company not paying-up if the worst happens. I don't trust the !"£$%^&'s I suppose you could diy all services and if you made a claim - "it was all like this when we bought it, guv. Didn't you look through the HIP? We bought it before a HIP was required." etc etc

[John Rumm]

Ed was not talking about competence, but certification. If someone wants to see a certificate, then being competent alone will not satisfy - after all "more than their jobs worth" etc.