Ryobi 50 Piece Screw & Nut Driving Bit Set

B&Q have these at £10:98 - as opposed to about £20 elsewhere.

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set, really nice (USA made) bit holder, one of those screw guide things, loads of bits inc pozi, phillips (very useful for flatpack etc), slotted, hex, torx & nut drivers.

Nice case as well, you can actually remove things without using a pry bar :-)

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The Medway Handyman
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USA made and has PZ bits? I've never seen PZ bits in any set in a store in the New World.

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Andy Hall

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Only the bit holder is marked 'made in USA'. I guess that item was sourced from there and the kit assembled somewhere else.

Excellent kit though, used in anger today & very good.

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The Medway Handyman

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I've a feeling that one of the US companies has a patent on magnetic hex bit holders but can't remember who

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Andy Hall

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Err no, unless you just mean those that have a both a male and female hex bit (such as those for use in drills), many people make magnetic screw drivers that all use standard hex bits.

As for Pozi-drive bits and screws, whilst at one time that were no that common in the USA they have been around in the USA for years and most US tool manufactures have made such bits for years - they have certainly been a standard item in the Snap-on catalogue for well over

30 years. If any screw head and driver bit still has a patent restricting it's manufacture it's the '+' Phillips drive.
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really

In the context here, that is what I meant - it was a set of bits and a holder, not a screwdriver.

Be that as it may, PZ is not found in Home Centers like Home Depot or Lowes in the form of tools or screws when I've looked and I haven't seen it mentioned in connection with contractor use either. It's one thing to make something for export and another to use it domestically.

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Andy Hall

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There is not much difference between design of a magnetic hex drive tool for a drill and one for a screw driver.

So, because Home Depot and Lowes (but not forgetting Wal-Mart...) don't stock pozidrive screws or drivers they are not used in the USA, hmmm. Could it be more likely that you just have never come across them?... As for trying to whizel out by now using the word 'domestically' is plain for all to see!

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:Jerry:

It should be pretty obvious that they are not anything like as popular as over here. Not rocket science is it?

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John Rumm

I don't think that what I wrote above actually says that.

That's precisely what I said.

"Domestically" was used in the context of manufacture and together with the word "export"

The meaning of "domestic" is thus as U.S. manufacturers use it. They refer to their domestic market and to their export or international market.

Therefore the use of "domestic" does not refer to something used in the home, bought from HD or Lowes.

Had I intended that use of the word, I would have used the words "trade", "professional" or "contractor" as the alternative to "domestic" in my last sentence.

To avoid misunderstanding, it would be helpful if you would read what was actually written rather than what you thought or hoped was written.

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Andy Hall

I suggest that you read Mr Hall's original (implied) comment;

USA made and has PZ bits? I've never seen PZ bits in any set in a store in the New World.

As if, just because he hasn't seen the use of pozidrive screws or bits the tools mentioned couldn't possibly have been mad in the USA. He then tries to claim that some how the bit holder has a patent that means only US companies can make them, he then decides that he meant 'domestically' - all whezel words from a straw man caught in a gale...

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:Jerry:

I neither said nor implied any such thing.

I had found something about patents on magnetic bit holders for drills some time ago. The issue wasn't important enough to look for that again.

Unfortunately, not only are you unable to spell, but you also seem to have difficulty with the contextual use of words.

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Andy Hall

Yes you did, not only egocentric but a blatant liar, what else could "USA made and has PZ bits?" mean?

Stop talking about yourself all the time Mr Hall....

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:Jerry:

On this topic (since you raised it), in another thread you cleraly need to learn the correct spelling (in context) of the word 'discreet'!

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Bob Eager

Harmer's Law:- Originally put forward by Brian Harmer of WYSIWYG fame.

Any spelling or grammar correction on usenet is liable to itself carry spelling or grammar mistakes. :-)

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Tony Williams

Yes, but was just a typo!

(if it wasn't a typo, it was a 'second generation' invocation of the law...)

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Bob Eager

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Just asked the question on a USA dominated woodwork group. Seems that Pozi bits are comparitely rare in the USA, mainly found on 'European' stuff. Phillips are predominant it seems.

Strange...

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The Medway Handyman

I believe you.

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Tony Williams

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It could just be that they actually don't know what each are, many people don't know the difference between the 'Phillips' head and the 'pozidrive' head, not helped by the fact that most cheap cross head screwdrivers have the Phillips head due to the fact that a Phillips head driver will work on both types so unless they actually have the need to use the benefits of the pozidrive they may never have to actually buy a pozidrive screwdriver!

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:Jerry:

Oh dear. Clearly you are having difficulties today. The point was made with a question mark on the end. That means that the point is made as a question or as a tentative suggestion rather than as a definitive statement.

There's really no point in responding to that remark....

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Andy Hall

Yes you are quite right.

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Andy Hall

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