Ryobi 18v combi drill - anyone got one?

Our DeWalt boots man spaketh. he works twiddling bass and treble knobs and then walks around at night in bright yellow DeWalt boots, obviously complete with a CAT hat. What a saddo!

You mean rip off tools.

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IMM
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See a woodworking mag. They usually are very comprehensive on this sort of stuff.

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IMM

Seems you know even less about my job than you do about yours. If that's possible. Oh - DeWalt boots were black last time I saw them. Are you colour blind as well?

I'd guess everyone else got the meaning.

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Dave Plowman

Another one. Let me see you are that silly David dope or silly Plowman. Which one? You are not very good at this are you?

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IMM

You are at it again Mr Chewer. You haven't been lurking at all have you? Playing pranks! How childish!

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IMM

Saw a kitchen fitter at work today using a Ryobi 2.1 kW router. I asked him what he thought of it, was it up to the job and was it well made. He had two 1/2" routers, the other being an ELU (DeWalt before takeover) at 1.8 kW. He said the Ryobi was certainly a pro tool and very well made, and as good as the ELU. He had the Ryobi for about 4-5 years. He tended to use the Ryobi because it had more power and sailed through worktops.

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IMM

I've been checking loads of reviews and been able to get the feel of some drills albeit with little battery power. Having spoken to many retailers I've ruled out DeWalt as they seem to have more trouble than is implied by the brand image and price. Makita get very good feedback. Bosch is middling. My own experience with Bosch has been some really great tools and some really rank ones like 2 previous mains drills that couldn't take any abuse.

I really like the feel of the Makita (esp the speed control which is the best so far) but want to check out a Panasonic before I finally decide.

Ryobi have also had very good reviews so it's not ruled out for the price. I did get the price wrong though - it was £170 for the combo of combi drill and saw.

The only thing that pee'd me off was seeing some Makita drills being made in China and still at premium prices. Surely the difference between the cost of production in Japan and China is huge? I saw one

12V DeWalt drill which didn't even state the country of manufacture. I looked over every inch of the drill, box and instructions to no avail.

Was thinking about buying online from the USA as the dollar is so weak to the pound but not sure whether the chargers are supplied 110 only and thus more hassle than it's worth.

All will be revealed soon.

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I have had several Makita drill products for some time and found them excellent especially speed control at low revs which still maintains good torque.

Also, they have a broad range of products and the interchangeability between chargers and batteries is good so there is something to be said for sticking with a brand with cordless tools. The Panasonic products, especially the drills have been reviewed well in the U.S.

I would check spares availability. I've never had a problem with Makita or with DeWalt, although don't have DW cordless products apart from a screwdriver.

The labour cost is one element. Others are the design, the quality of the components used, the QA of the finished product and the spares backup, not to mention recovery on R&D. There is a big difference between sourcing a product from China withj indeterminate quality standards and badging it, vs. a product that is assembled there with known QA and components.

I've certainly done that and with tools it makes a lot of sense. It can also be cost effective to make a trip just to go tool shopping for a couple of days. Travel light and pack the tools as luggage for the return. This balances off shipping costs to an extent and you have £145 duty and VAT free allowance on the return.

At a rate of over $1.70 it is certainly even worth shipping if you watch out for the costs.

Generally chargers are 110v only, but this is no big deal. I have numerous 110v cordless tools and a few mains ones as well. All you need to do is to buy a yellow site transformer here (about £40) and a U.S. extension cord or multiway outlet. Chop off the U.S. plug and fit a yellow one to plug into the transformer.

The cost saving on a couple of tools easily pays for the transformer.

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Andy Hall

Arte you serious? You are telling people,to take a flight to the USA to buy some power tools? That will buy a lot of PP Pro tools, like crate full.

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IMM

I said "can be". It would depend on what you are buying and the exchange rate.

As far as a quantity of PP Pro tools are concerned, I think the operative phrase is skip full.......

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Andy Hall

And never run out of one either. One breaks, ditch it, and pick up another, and still have lots more lolly in the bank.

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IMM

The economics don't add up for this approach in the long run.

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Andy Hall

I beg to differ.

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IMM

That's fine. It really depends on your scale of values and your expectations.

I tend to follow the principles of John Ruskin and avoid disappointment.

John Ruskin, 1819-1900 Author, Critic, British Philosopher, Artist

"It's unwise to pay too much, but it's unwise to pay too little. When you pay too much you lose a little money, that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing you bought it to do.

The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it's well to add something for the risk you run. And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better."

"The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of Low Price is Forgotten."

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Andy Hall

Thing were different in the 1800s. We now have throw away goods.

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IMM

It doesn't alter the principles of business.

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Andy Hall

I agree with this sentiment in general, I personally buy Sears for cordless drills(lifetime warranty?), but would not buy Dewalt cordless, as IME they seem to be prone to gearbox problems. Their small SDS drill seems reliable. It's also quite usefull to be able to drive the 110V Xmas lights, which are almost given away in price terms in the US. Using a site xfmr gives the benefit of +/- 55V about earth for outside lights. It's also worth considering the US bathroom heat/light extractor fan units, they seem to run very satisfactorily on 50Hz and there is to the best of my knowledge, no equivalent in the UK. Certainly not for £40. Regards Capitol

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Capitol

It does. Those people,never thought that a machine could be thrown away if defective. And the machine is so cheap?? This puts maters in a different light.

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IMM

Who make it?

Screwfix sell a combined extractor LV bathroom light.

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IMM

"The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can't be done."

That statement is timeless.

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Andy Hall

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