Roundup/Glyphosphate

[Lawrence]

getting 1lt

ingredient

various

Different

I buy from Progress.

[News]

In message , Tim Streater writes

Apologies for digging up an oldish thread. Just for reference, having read the advice here, I bought a one litre bottle of Glyphosate

36 via eBay for less than fifteen quid including delivery.

Mixed as per instructions, and sprayed with a Hozelock pressure sprayer. That was three weeks or more ago, and all I can say is, it worked. Perfect. Grass, nettles, dandelions etc. All either dead or on their last legs.

I could probably have bought it cheaper, particularly in larger quantities, but I don't have a farm to treat, and this one litre bottle will doubtless last several years even if I have to reapply. Great stuff.

[JimK]

Oh go on then.

Yes its good stuff.

It doesn't hang around in soil so you will, in all probability, have to rea pply every couple of months during the season to keep things "clear" or kno ck back regrowth/new weed germinations.

Assuming your sprayer is 6 litre capacity you would be using approx 1/4 pin t of concentrate so your 1 litre (1.76 pints) will last you ~7 X refills - maybe 3 years tops IF you only use it for the area you have done so far, yo u don;t give any away, spill any etc etc.

Hence others buy in larger quantities at cheaper prices - 5 litres for 33 q uid delivered i.e. 5 times quantity you bought for 2 X price - no brainer ( for most) with that sort of requirement.

No I don't own/run a farm.

Jim K

[tony sayer]

In article , News scribeth thus

JOOI we need to slaughter some weeds nettles, brambles and some creeping stuff that are growing thru a membrane with gravel on top.

Sodium Chlorate comes to mind but no one seems locally to stock it.

Is there anything else as good?.. Or better;?...

Cheers..

[Tim Lamb]

In message , tony sayer writes

Sodium Chlorate has been banned for some years. Explosives manufacture rather than EU for once?

There are various products available for treating woody plants without killing grass.

Timbrel, Grazon, Woody etc. You need to be very careful of chemical persistence as composted dead stuff can affect vulnerable plants up to 3 years later.

[Martin Brown]

Glyphosate will kill most of it pretty easily, but if it is gravel with weeds on top the nettles should be easily pulled up. I have never come across weed control fabric so puny that nettles could penetrate it.

Bamboo, Japanese knotweed, bramble and thistles will penetrate weed fabric or at the very least lift it into the air until something gives.

Weight for weight glyphosate is considerably better but lacks the persistence. I can't endorse the modern Pathclear formulation either.

[Huge]

IME, no.

[Huge]

No, it was the EU.

[Ian Jackson]

Can't you still get it, but considerably adulterated with chalk or salt to a degree where it's no longer useful as an explosive?

[Johny B Good]

Semtex?

[Huge]

No.

"Pesticides Safety Directorate (PSD) information services officer Ian Rowland said a vote by the EC pesticides review standing committee in July was for non-inclusion of chlorates in Annex 1 of their review.

This means sodium chlorate has to be withdrawn from sale and use. Dates have yet to be published but Rowland said there will be six months to withdraw sales and 12 months after that to withdraw use and storage, meaning the product will probably be outlawed for sale by July 2009 and use by July 2010.

The weedkiller is used as a non-selective herbicide and considered phytotoxic to all green plant parts. It can also kill through root absorption.The main brands of the weedkiller at garden centre level are Growing Success, Doff and Gem. The own-brand players - ASDA, Focus, Homebase, Great Mills, Tesco and Wilko usually have a back-to-back registration with these other main players.

Sodium chlorate's withdrawal is part of the loss of up to 85 per cent of pesticides as part of the EC review of their health dangers. "

[Andrew Mawson]

Would that Semtex be intended for demolition of the EU and all it's institutions? If so then it would be highly effective in making many aspects of life more enjoyable, many businesses more profitable, and more tax payers better off. The only downside, if it is a downside, is the huge number of bureaucrats that would be left sitting on park benches feeding the pigeons :)

Andrew

[D.M.Chapman]

Talking of sprayers, I tried to use mine again yesterday and the pump isn't working. Nothing obvious wrong - I think they are just all crap :-/

Anyone got a recommendation for one that's half decent? Not looking for something huge, but would like one with seperate hose/nozzle IYSWIM

something like

and not somthing like

I seem to get through one a year, and that's only maybe 6 uses. Are the hozelok ones any better - they look suspiciously identical to the cheap but crap generic ones...

Darren

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In message , JimK writes

Jim, I hear and appreciate all you say. My reason for buying the small one litre bottle was just to make sure I could use as I wanted, and achieve good results. Having done both, I'll probably buy a larger quantity next time. Depends how long it lasts, I suppose.

[tony sayer]

Its more crap onto the gravel over time I expect..

OK Glyphosate is it then thanks....

[Andrew Mawson]

I bought the Silverline back pack sprayer:

It's lance broke early on and I replaced it with a 1 metre polycarbonate tube. Since then it's been very good - I think this is the 5th season

Andrew