Removing paint from concrete cills - 2

I posted a question on 7/4/09 asking about the best way to remove paint from concrete cills (Wire brush V abrasive discs).

Thanks for all the advice. Job was booked for yesterday & today and its been a good learning experience. Customer breeds rare cats, dead against Nitromoors, so it had to be mechanical removal.

First off, visit to local Screwfix trade counter to buy wire brushes & dust mask. Whilst there I spotted a Site angle grinder (made by Makita) on offer @ £30. I don't use angle grinders a lot, so I've just bought Chinese cheapies in the past. Since I was going to be using one for two days, I treated myself.

What a difference! Sooo much easier to use & control I couldn't believe it. Well worth paying a little extra for. Never realised how different a goodie & a cheapie could be.

Anywho, I bought three wire brushes, a Titan bevel brush, a Bosch equivalent and a Titan twist cup brush;

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twist cup brush was almost completely useless, hard to control & didn't remove much at all. The bevel brushes are the tool for the job, really high rate of removal without any damage to the concrete cill.

I bought the Titan & the Bosch to see if there was any benefit from the Bosch branded one, which was over twice the price of the Titan. No difference in performance at all. 48" x 8" cill took around 40 mins.

Brush wear rate is phenomenal though. Did two cills 48" x 8" and the Titan brush was worn away completely. The Bosch brush lasted for four 24" x 8" cills, so exactly the same rate of wear, but the Bosch cost £16.76 as against £6.84 for the Titan. Won't be buying Bosch again :-)

The dust mask was a real revelation.

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blurb said "3M cool flow valve reduces heat build-up" and it really did! I've always had problems with dust masks causing my glasses to steam up. Didn't happen at all with this. I'll definitely be using these again.

Interesting bit of info. The customer went to Brewers for advice about paint. They asked about the preparation method and as soon as they knew about the wire brush they recommended the use of an oil based primer, prior to masonry paint. The reason being that the wire brush would leave tiny metal particles in the surface of the concrete, which would rust & bleed through the water based masonry paint. I'd never have thought of that, Brewers obviously know their stuff.

Hope that helps anyone thinking of doing a similar job or buying an angle grinder or dust mask.

Oh, BTW its an incredibly dirty job! SWMBO wouldn't let me in to the house last night until I'd used the workshop airline to blow most of the dust off!

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The Medway Handyman
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Totally agree about the 3M dust masks - I really don't mind wearing them. All the Martindales and other things of the past were awful.

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Rod

Did you see:

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was still £30 though...

At that price I am tempted to get another - sometimes its handy having a pair set up with different ends on.

Perhaps I have never used a really bad one - but most I have used seemed similar in performance (although not longevity)

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These are more gentle that you might expect. They are good for light rust removal on metal. I tend to use:

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?ts=37074for general cleaning up of stuff.

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comfortable, no steaming and complete protection against particles and vapour (even smells - effective against nasty dog yodel after she has been troughing at the cat's litter tray!)

Some of those disposable all in one overalls with hood can be quite handy for those jobs. (I cut a doorway through a cinderblock wall using a 9" angle grinder once - at least with one of those on you don;t need to wash you hair half a dozen times before you can even get the water to wet it!)

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John Rumm

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> 110V was still £30 though...

Just checked the invoice & I did pay £19.91 for it! Never noticed as there was a lot of other stuff on it. Bargain!

Last one I bought was £8! Alledgedly 900w compared to 700w for the Site, but no performance differeance, in fact the Site seems more powerful. Just so much more comfortable to use.

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>>> The twist cup brush was almost completely useless, hard to control &

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?ts=37074>> for general cleaning up of stuff.

I've used those in the past for light paint removal on a tile hung elevation. Wouldn't have touched this stuff, layers up to 3mm thick in place.

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>>> The blurb said "3M cool flow valve reduces heat build-up" and it

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> very comfortable, no steaming and complete protection against

I'd look like Darth Vader :-) I'll try one if I get another job like this. Cheers.

One benefit of having very little hair :-)

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The Medway Handyman

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>>> very comfortable, no steaming and complete protection against

Or an extra from The Fly:

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>> Oh, BTW its an incredibly dirty job! SWMBO wouldn't let me in to

As a young but balding mate of mine used to say - I have got hair like yours, just not on my head.

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Thanks John, that's a great answer. Been hoping for years for something like that !!

Rob

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Rob G

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>>> 110V was still £30 though...

I didn't actually check the invoice there, I checked the 'all my purchases' feature on the SF website where it confirmed I had paid £19.91 for it. I have just checked the paper invoice and the bastards charged me £31.31!

I use that 'all my purchases' feature a lot to check what I've paid for stuff - seems it can't be trusted.

Immediate e-mail to SF I think!

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The Medway Handyman

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>>>>> 110V was still £30 though...

They prolly charged you for the 110V version - that is still £31 on the web site.

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John Rumm

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>>>>>>> 110V was still £30 though...

Dunno, see new thread Screwfix Prices.

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The Medway Handyman

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