Re: VERY IMPORTANT - MUY IMPORTANTE - la discusión sobre la religión no es muy importante

[Mike Halmarack]

Mike Halmarack wrote:

>> >> >> >>>Mike Halmarack wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Tournifreak wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Please help me - I'm a Christian, age 29. >>>>> >>>>>I wish I was only 29. >>>> >>>> >>>>29 was when it all started to go way too fast for me. Can I have 18 >>>>please? >>> >>>An 18-year-old with a penchant for DIY ? >> >> >> If I must but I'd prefer the 18 that predates an interest in d-i-y if >> it's available. Except for the interest in d-i-y LSD manufacture >> perhaps. I'd want to be subject to the same old fashionable influences >> and memes of the time. Maybe I'd respond to them a little differently >> though. >> >> >>>I really hope mine turn out like that (c: >>>Oh, sorry, I mean pray that mine turn out like that. >> >> >> Do you think there might be a difference in effectiveness between >> public and private prayer? > >Nope, I suspect that they are exactly the same level of effectiveness.

I'm not a religious person. I only believe in "God" to the extent that I believe that a superior being(s) with the potential to exert an influence could exist. I do think prayer can be effective on a personal and social level though, for those who use or are influenced by it. So on this basis the difference between the effects of public and private prayer may be significant.

[John Cartmell]

Prayer is effective; but not if the person being prayed for doesn't know about it. That may make the sceptical dismiss it as a simple placebo effect of course.

I prefer the effectiveness of TLC.

[Mike Halmarack]

Is the placebo effect simple or is this just a device for denigrating it?

I hope you get it.:-)

[Andy Hall]

There are other electrical wholesalers, you know.....

[John Cartmell]

Well-being improves if you think positively about yourself. Taking medicines that you have reason to believe will do you good helps you feel positive about yourself. Knowing that you are cared for does the same.

Families can be very good institutions. ;-))

[Mike Halmarack]

Yes, I'm sure you're right.

That sounds like it might work. I'm sure there's evidence to support it.

That seems like quite a useful analogy for God to me.

Then don't take it.

Perhaps you weren't listening. Even scientifically.

I think it's more likely to imply a facet of our subconscious most directly but this may interact with other things.