ag> Microsoft doesn't have [standard] in its company dictionary.
Of course they do. It's defined as `something you make up for a joke on a slow Friday afternoon after a liquid lunch then have to pretend makes sense for the next decade' .
Is that _another_ reason not to get cordless stuff? ;O)
Take Care, Gnube {too thick for linux}
Your figures are from what source? I'd be very surprised if it was anything like 98% in *this* group judging by the UA strings I've seen.
Read one of my replies to EssJay; Mozilla is *bottom* posting by default but with an option to top post, mainly for use with e-mail where company policy dictates this.
ROFLMAO. I don't know what you're smoking but I'd stop it, it's causing brain damage.
[remaining pointless ramblings snipped]I suggest you go and read RFC1855 "Netiquette Guidelines"
Also read
These are the rules of Usenet (the latter being specific to the uk.* hierarchy). Now these rules aren't enforced by law so no-one's going to lock you up for not following them but this is how the Internet works, by users voluntarily adhering to agreed rules (mainly RFCs), and people that don't adhere to them will get grief.
There is a mechanism to change these rules (RFDs I believe) so if you really believe that top-posting should become the standard then you, or maybe Microsoft, should propose a change to RFC1855.
This particular group has a rather basic charter but some, e.g. uk.comp.os.win2000, have more comprhensive charters. The one for u.c.o.win2000 expicitly forbids top-posting. See
Would that be because the norm in the paper office is to place the latest correspondence on the top of a file.
"Guidelines" that says it all!
Steve R
Just to throw some real figures in here, from scanning the headers in my local spool for uk.d-i-y of 6579 messages going back to 30/6/03, the following newsreaders have been used :
2804 Microsoft Outlook Express 580So, Outlook express used for 43% of the postings. Doesn't give the number of individual users for each. Might have a play see if I can get that info out.
Subtract IMM's count first. :-)
Dave Plowman.
Me probably.
Sad to say, I bet they're all mine!
Someone said that the fault must lie with the newsgroup if OE isn't
98%.... LOL!
Done that, won't bother posting the full stats unless anyone wants them, but out of 868 posters, 382 (44%) use OE, 167 (19%) use google.
No, you aren't quite unique, Ian Johnston also uses ProNews
: On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:12:28 UTC, John Armstrong : wrote: : : > 47 ProNews/2 V1.53.cp
: Sad to say, I bet they're all mine!
Er-hem.
Ian
But even if it was, the latest *post* in a thread goes to the top of the list - unless that's something else OE screws up.
Nor have I ever seen a memo where all the previous correspondence on the subject is copied - either on top or below.
Can I ask why you're using 3.60?
Ah...sorry! And a later version than me...must get up to date!
Well, I must admit that surprises me. I knew it wouldn't be anywhere near 98% for OE but I didn't expect it to be as low as 44% (I'd have guessed ~70%).
Running the same script for all the uk.* groups I subscribe to (11 of them), with 24468 messages has OE with 37% of messages and 41% of users.
As a further challenge, I have got my script to try to analyse whether each message is top posted, bottom posted, inter posted or completely new content. The results are uk.d-i-y: Top posted 5% Bottom posted 64% Interleaved 16% New 16% OE users are responsible for 91% of the top posts, google 4%, mozilla
3%uk.* Top posted 3% Bottom posted 71% Interleaved 15% New 11% OE users are responsible for 87% of the top posts, google 5%
number of individual users for each. Might have a play see if I can get that info out.
So that is a majority for OE. Damn it the Priminister didn't get that much of the vote and he now says what goes. So given that OE is the largest slice shall we go with top posting then? Steve R
No because they are backed up by Laws
Steve R
If you have never used it how do you know it's crap? Was SWMBO allowed a choice or did you just do it with out asking because you know best?
That surely is subjective!
Steve R
Only a small number of them.
If it ain't broke......
Plus a certain caution about having my means of earning money totally reliant on later OS' from RISCOS Ltd.
Plus being a cheapskate.
When a political party gets elected in the UK. And in fact 43% is considered a significant majority.
Labour got in last time with only 25% (or thereabouts) of the voting population casting a vote for them.
Andrew
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