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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:15:14 +0100, Martin Angove

my local spool for uk.d-i-y of 6579 messages going back to 30/6/03, the following newsreaders have been used : 2804    Microsoft Outlook Express 580    http://groups.google.com 441    Forte Agent 402    No Header Info 355    Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) 278    Turnpike/6.02-U () 174    Pluto/1.14i (RISC-OS/3.70) NewsHound 162    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape 122    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko 116    Messenger-Pro/2.61 (MsgServe/2.02) (RISC-OS/4.02) NewsHound 96    knews 1.0b 83    Forte Free Agent 76    Xnews 74    MT-NewsWatcher/3.1 (PPC) 54    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030716 Netscape 47    ProNews/2 V1.53.cp 43    Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U 43    VSoup v1.2.9.44Beta [95/NT] 40    MacSOUP 39    MicroPlanet Gravity 37    tin/1.4.6-20020816 ("Aerials") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.21-grsec (i586)) 35    Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) 35    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030710 Netscape 35    PMINews 2.00.1205 For OS 29    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 MultiZilla 27    Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) trialware 26    Turnpike/6.02-M () 25    KNode 19    Mailgate Web Server 18    Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) 18    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko 17    tin/1.4.6-20020816 ("Aerials") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.12-grsec-1.8.4 (i586)) 16    40tude_Dialog 16    Pluto/1.14i (RISC-OS/3.60) 14    Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 S 13    U 12    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko 11    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko 10    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 2000) Opera 6.05 [en] 10    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko 9    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko 9    slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) 8    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030701 Netscape 8    Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 8    Virtual Access by Atlantic Coast PLC, http://www.atlantic-coast.com/va 7    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030723 Netscape 7    Pan/0.13.3 (That cat's something I can't explain) 7    Turnpike/6.00-U () 4    Gnus v5.7/Emacs 4    Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition 4    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) 4    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko 3    MT-NewsWatcher 3    Messenger-Pro/2.11 (MsgServe/1.11) (RISC-OS/4.02) NewsHound 3    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko 2    MT-NewsWatcher/3.3b1 (PPC Mac OS X) 2    MacSOUP/2.5b3 (Mac OS X version 10.2.6) 2    Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win95; U) 2    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape 2    Turnpike (32) Version 4.01 2    Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S 2    Turnpike/6.01-S () 2    Turnpike/6.01-U () 2    tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.18-64GB-SMP (i686)) 1    40tude_Dialog/2.0.5.1 (4ba740d7.147.435) 1    40tude_Dialog/2.0.5.1 (c154d454.151.439) 1    Emacs Gnus 1    Gemini/1.13 (Windows-XP) 1    Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs 1    Microsoft (R) Exchange Internet News Service Version 1    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT 4.0) Opera 6.04 [en-GB] 1    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape 1    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape 1    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030625 Netscape 1    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030716 Thunderbird/0.1a 1    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.2.1) Gecko 1    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape 1    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape 1    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko 1    News Xpress 1    PocoMail 1    Screwfix Magic Word Posting Thingy with SDS 1    WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit) 1    none 1    trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001)
So, Outlook express used for 43% of the postings. Doesn't give the number of individual users for each. Might have a play see if I can get that info out.
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Subtract IMM's count first. :-)

Dave Plowman.

Me probably.
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Can I ask why you're using 3.60?
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If it ain't broke......
Plus a certain caution about having my means of earning money totally reliant on later OS' from RISCOS Ltd.
Plus being a cheapskate.
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It was my understanding 3.70 cured a few bugs.

I haven't bothered either.

Nothing wrong with not wanting the latest thing regardless.
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A RO4 machine passed through my hands. I can't say that I saw any significant improvements, nor did I particularly like it.

It seems to me that the main thing that each new OS does is consume yet more of the uP's horsepower. I paid for that horsepower, it is *mine*, and I resent a fat+weak OS that wastes much of it on doing the pretty bells and whistles.
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Well, as far as I'm concerned (SA pre rev-T) RO4 actually provided some small performance/speed benefits over RO3.7. I gather that if my SA was a rev-T or later I'd have seen even more improvements. I like the F+ format (long names/small FAU) although the idea of keeping a drive map in RAM is a bit odd to my mind (mine takes 1 meg)... but then it's never (yet) been a problem, despite a few power-switch shutdowns. So, IME only, a later OS certainly hasn't "consumed yet more of the uP's horsepower".
OTOH, CLI -> Arthur -> RO2 -> RO3.1 probably did.
To go back a few steps...

Is probably me and me alone.
Hwyl!
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 10:12:28 UTC, John Armstrong

Sad to say, I bet they're all mine!
Someone said that the fault must lie with the newsgroup if OE isn't 98%.... LOL!
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On 26 Jul 2003 11:08:44 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@spamcop.net (Bob Eager) wrote:

them, but out of 868 posters, 382 (44%) use OE, 167 (19%) use google.

No, you aren't quite unique, Ian Johnston also uses ProNews
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John Armstrong wrote:

Well, I must admit that surprises me. I knew it wouldn't be anywhere near 98% for OE but I didn't expect it to be as low as 44% (I'd have guessed ~70%).

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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 16:53:58 +0000, parish <parish_AT_ntlworld.com> wrote:

them), with 24468 messages has OE with 37% of messages and 41% of users.
As a further challenge, I have got my script to try to analyse whether each message is top posted, bottom posted, inter posted or completely new content. The results are uk.d-i-y: Top posted 5% Bottom posted 64% Interleaved 16% New 16% OE users are responsible for 91% of the top posts, google 4%, mozilla 3%
uk.* Top posted 3% Bottom posted 71% Interleaved 15% New 11% OE users are responsible for 87% of the top posts, google 5%
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Dave Plowman wrote:

Personally, I don't see the problem. OE does what I want and I probably does what most people want. The only problem I can see is it uploads e-mails with viruses, but Mail Washer fixes that.
OK so maybe you want your newsreader to dance and whistle dixie, but whats the gain? I know there are better because other people keep telling me and vendors keep bombarding me with adverts, but why bother, at the end of the day its only fashion to have the latest gizmo, newest car, latest mobile etc etc and I gave up being a slave to fashion in the 60's
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I don't - I'm using RISCOS with an e-mail prog that's several years old. But easy to use, and conforms to what the *majority* of people want.
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Dave Plowman wrote:

So why are the majority not using it?
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I take it you failed arithmetic at school?
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Dave Plowman wrote:

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Not mastered the use of capitals yet then?
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