Re: If B&Q had a brain, they'd be dangerous ...

Yebbut, they're not the same as flourescents innit.

The Philips CFLs that I've fitted fire up straight away and reach full output quickly. The 11W in the hall is brighter than a 60W GLS; that's good because a 40W GLS would be OK there but for colour.

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PeterC
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Hmmm. I must admit to being a bit confused by all this now. So is it illegal to sell 60 watt pearl light bulbs, or not ? If yes, how come so many UK companies are apparently selling them with impunity online ? And if not, why can you no longer buy them in any shop, supermarket or shed, or even in the cash and carry that I use for one of our businesses ? What a bloody legislative mess ...

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

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No, beause the English Parliament forgot to enact the ban. The EU banned them and it was assumed by everyone that the mirror English legislation would be forthcoming as it usually is. But it wasn't and someone noticed, told the world, and here we are...

But they might still get round to it.

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Tim Watts

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I'm not impressed - I've had two go bang with smoke!!

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Alan

If they cannot use a lightswitch how do you know that they can use stairs?

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ARWadsworth

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Fair enough. But why then, have all the shops and sheds not put 60s back on the shelves ? Have they all suddenly grown an eco-conscience over their desire to make money ? Anywhere that put them back on their shelves would, I'm sure, sell out in very short order, considering the public outcry when the ban was first proposed ...

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

Here my 2005-built flat has 4x50W concealed downlighters in the main lounge area - horrible spot light and dim areas. I've now got two IKEA uplighters with 20W CFLs - quite enough light and much better quality. Likewise in my bedroom/office one uplighter next to my desk provides much better and cheaper to run lighting.

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Tony Bryer

output of the 30W was lower than a Philips 18W. I sent them back - got a full refund and return carriage paid, so a good supplier to deal with.

Judging by the smell of the things, they would have gone bang eventually.

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PeterC

Weird. I've have 10 or so, half are 2 years old, many have been going non stop more or less for > year and the oldest are fading a bit but still provide good light output.

One was DOA but the supplier sent me a new one.

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Tim Watts

You've got me laughing so much I can't read any more :-(

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Jules Richardson

Years ago, GE lighting in Europe had a six-sigma business strategy in action for their deliveries between locations. This mean't that failure was not an option and if a delivery of florescent strips didn't all fit in one lorry travelling between, say, Hungary (the factory) and England

- another lorry would be scheduled to carry the extra.

My accountant friend recalls the event that the computer system ensured that an additional lorry was sent with just *one* florescent strip, to complete a customer order.

Placed not so carefully in the back, it arrived.

Broken.

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Adrian C

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