Re: HEAT !!!

[Steve Firth]

20000 yers ago? I doubt it.

[Doctor Drivel]

Humans are so more advanced than any other creatures on earth, some people reckon came from another planet, 1000s of years ago.

[Steve Firth]

Warning to uk.t, Drivel is a net-loon who makes Toomy look sane. Drivel is also a spammer and was responsible for posting "endorsements" for the snake-oil product "cataclean" some years ago, which he claimed was a product approved by the Lancashire police garage. When I called someone at that garage to check ont he truth of the story, they sighed and said they were aware of the stories but that the "approval" was a lie and had not happened.

Drivel also morphs his "From:" line faster than Toomy does. A sure sign of the trolling idiot.

[Roger Thorpe]

Yeah, I dropped a zero. I dropped it on the floor and I think that the cat's eaten it.

Roger Thorpe

[Steve Firth]

Careful, you don't want the cat hyper-evolving

[Roger Thorpe]

I'd like to think that I'm broadminded but I don't want Danny John-Jules sitting on my lap. Roger

[Doctor Drivel]

Oh look! A plantpot.

[Steve Firth]

Oh I dunno, he's at least more stylish that Craig Charles or the one with a head like a novelty ice cube.

[Brimstone]

Presumably having Arnold Rimmer sitting on your lap would be too much like talking to yourself?

[geoff]

In message , Doctor Drivel writes

Well, we know that you did

complete with Drivel physics

[Doctor Drivel]

Maxie, you are right. I am far more advanced than everyone else here. Yes, more advanced. You are right, I am.

Maxie, you are right I do specialise in Doctor Drivel physics - the best sort. The sort that works. Yes, you are right again Maxie. Fantastic.

[Andrew Gabriel]

You might want to take a peek back over the history of what we know of the greenhouse effect and CO2. CO2 was first hypothesised as responsible for the green house effect at the end of the 19th century, based on laboratory tests of its spectral absorbtion. The hypothesis was (and still is) quite plausible, but it was well beyond science at the time to prove it.

As the ability of experimental science in the atmosphere moved on, people started embarking on tests to prove the earlier hypothesis. There have been many attempts, but the proof has been elusive. What has happened instead is that the tests have shown over the years that increasing numbers of other gasses are contributors to the greenhouse effect. So in the 1890's it was thought that CO2 was the cause based on the hypothesis. The subsequent testing has shown that other gasses are contributors too, but have not managed to show that CO2 is a contributor. So the hypothesis has been gradually modified to correct for CO2's dimishing contribution to the greenhouse effect us we understand the science better over the years. We are now up to the point where we can prove something of the order of 70-80% of the greenhouse effect is caused by water vapour, methane, and ozone, (water vapour being by far the largest) and we still hypothsise that the remainer is caused by CO2 as we have no other explaination, and this is still plausible.

However, your assertions that "water is not an issue" and "CO2 is undoubtedly a greenhouse gas" are not credible, based on what we currently know. Water is an issue (but possibly one over which we have no direct control). CO2 is still thought likely to be a greenhouse gas, but it's one that's not understood 110 years after the original hypothesis.

[Brimstone]

AIUI chemicals such as dihydrogen monoxide are also responsible for climate change/global warming. Shouldn't they be banned?

[GB]

I think that we all are aware that dihydrogen monoxide is a major component of acid rain.

[Graeme Wall]

It's also a major cause of flooding.

[Steve Firth]

So are you claiming that "water is not an issue " in acid rain?

You really did hit every branch on the way down when you fell out of the fallacy tree.

[R.C. Payne]

Don't forget that it can cause death by the simple act of inhaling it. Moreover, almost all food is contaminated by it.

Robin

[Steve Firth]

"Water is not an issue" in flooding, I'm sure some knobhed will be along to inform you, in due course.

[Paul Herber]

Components are for men, issues are for the ladies.

[Graeme Wall]

I take elaborate precautions to keep it out of my whisky.