Problem with old-syle oil-imersed arc welder

A militant green nut, then. They cost us all a fortune by putting the price of everything up in the pursuit of their loony and largely unsubstantiated ideas.

Reply to
orion.osiris
Loading thread data ...

Wrong.

They cost us all a fortune by putting the price of everything up in the pursuit of their own personal profit 'excused' by loony and largely unsubstantiated ideas.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

I've just spoken to the MD no less at Youngs (the link some helpful person pointed me to elsewhere on this thread. He has a message for you. He says you're talking "absolute rubbish" and should "go boil your head". The oil in this transformers is entirely benign, you can eat chips fried in it, he reckons. You are getting mixed up with some weird synthetic shit that was all the vogue 40 years ago in the electrical distribution industry and was never used in these welders with which he has been personally and intimately acquainted for over 50 years, so I suggest you get your facts right before indulging in personal abuse and outrageous scaremongering. End of.

The stuff was universally used back then, it's electrical properties are so superior to oil. And it was cheaper. Only much later was it discovered how nasty it was. So ther eis still lots of it about. It was very foolish of the OP to meddle with it without checking first.

I would want to get that information in writing too. And I would want it from a technical person not the MD who has every reason to deny this tuff was ever used by them due to possible legal action which were taken in the past against some manufacturers

Reply to
harryagain

You are a half wit.

formatting link
These are well known industrial pollutants and were in universal use.

The manufacturers of all large capacitors, transformers and switchgear used them at some point until the dangers were discovered.

Reply to
harryagain

I've just spoken to the MD no less at Youngs (the link some helpful person pointed me to elsewhere on this thread. He has a message for you. He says you're talking "absolute rubbish" and should "go boil your head". The oil in this transformers is entirely benign, you can eat chips fried in it, he reckons. You are getting mixed up with some weird synthetic shit that was all the vogue 40 years ago in the electrical distribution industry and was never used in these welders with which he has been personally and intimately acquainted for over 50 years, so I suggest you get your facts right before indulging in personal abuse and outrageous scaremongering. End of.

Welll that makes you pretty credulous. He would be the last person to ask. Get it off him in writing, he might not be so keen then and may not have been born when this stuff was first identified as hazardous. It was used in everything electrical virtually that once held oil because it's electrical properties (and cost) are so superior. As usual the industry went into denial first, he seems to be still that way.

formatting link

formatting link

Reply to
harryagain

So, I have the choice of accepting the word of somebody who is uniquely qualified to know exactly what was used in this welder or somebody with an axe to grind whom I cannot recall getting anything right in his postings to this group. Difficult choice.

Colin Bignell

Reply to
Nightjar

...

The OP has done exactly what the HSE recommend in that last - he has checked with the manufacturer.

As it happens, I had one of these welders to dispose of some years ago. The oil in it went to a specialist company that dealt with all our chemical waste. I am sure they would have told us had it been anything other the mineral oil we said we sent them, if only because they could have charged a lot more for anything hazardous.

Colin Bignell

Reply to
Nightjar

Olympic welders)and >ordered replacement components to put this thing back into fully working order. Not cheap, these high quality English-made parts, but it'll still be going in another 30 years and will be perfectly happy t o work flat-out for as long as needed. Something you can't claim for your c rappy chinese inverters and turbos.

Reply to
Mr Fuxit

Olympic welders)and ordered replacement components to put this thing back i nto fully working order. Not cheap, these high quality English-made parts, but it'll still be going in another 30 years and will be perfectly happy to work flat-out for as long as needed. Something you can't claim for your cr appy chinese inverters and turbos.

Did you ask about the single/three-phase option?

Reply to
Mr Fuxit

Not sure what you mean, so I'll try to cover everything. This welder can ru n off both. With a single phase 230A supply, it puts out up to 220A; with 3 phase it puts out a maximum of 300A. Voltage options are 50v open circuit and 80v open circuit regardless of the supply voltage option. You don't hav e do tie any unused inputs together or to earth. For the benefit of the ped ants here, when I say it can run off 3 phase what I actually mean is that i t runs off 2 of the live phases of a 3 phase supply; the 3rd is unused.

Reply to
orion.osiris

Excellent bits of kit, those. I can't be sure it was a Young's unit I had the use of, but the marvellous thing about it, was its ability to strike and hold an arc on the thinnest of rods - very controllable, very stable. When the works closed down I was all ready to hoik that one into the back of my car but the bastard works foreman beat me to it.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

Harry, which part of

Did you not understand?

Probably bollocks, but either way not important since he is keeping it...

Reply to
John Rumm

Nice to be reminded of my old home town, Twickenham and to know that such a firm has stayed in business - bit odd for their website to have no product info though. They must be one of the few survivors of all the industry that was in that locale, principally the Automotive Products component factory (pistons etc) facing Twickenham Green and the Scalecraft toy factory that made clip-together battery-powered cars etc.

Reply to
Tony Bryer

Now, I do recall it was made in Twickenham. "Oxford" really rings a bell - jeez, you'd think that somewhere on the web there would be a pic of an Oxford welder.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

Oh, there's the f***er...

formatting link

It was the Twickenham that was screwing up the results.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

Aha, wrong direction; this is identical to the one I had...

formatting link
Made in N'pton shire, nothing to do with Youngs as it turns out.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

HomeOwnersHub website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.