Printer dilemma ..

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 07:50:36 GMT, T i m strung together this:

He seems to cover quite a few, I've just been looking in his eBay store.

Dunno, I've enquired about muliple items and shipping discounts, I'll see what he says and post back. Hopefully the postage saving will cover the tax as VAT will be added to the eBay price at customs.

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Lurch
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Hi all,

Well, last night a black cartridge for the 840c I had found in a clip responded to a wipe and printed a nice black square (no luck with Cart World colour one that never really worked properly).

This morning .. nothing .. blank page .. ;-(

I had noticed whilst playing yesterday the the HP 'Toolkit' button didn't do anything. Thids morning I removed then installed the latest driver off the HP site and now it won't print at all (and I tried it in various directions). To be fair I can't remember how it'ds connected (USB / USB > Paralled convertor or parallel ..) so when I've finished taxi driving our daughter I'll pull it all out and see where we are (I have feint memories of having problems with this ages ago).

So, as it seems to be telling me 'enough is enough' my missus has just ordered an ip4000 for me (us) ;-)

All the best ...

T i m

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T i m

Minolta 2400W at Staples, under £300.

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Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)

Replacement colour toner £90 per colour, £300 for a complete set including black, so it probably doesn't have low enough running costs for the OP.

Bill

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bill

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:00:07 +0000, Lurch strung together this:

$2 per additional item if I order 3 or more repair kits.

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Lurch

Thanks for that fella ... soooo.. if the total value (shipping + item) ~ 20 quid, I wonder if HM Customs would pick it up (is the item value 16 quid before duty?). Two items may be under but should imagine we would have to pay on 3 or more (do you need more than one? My mate next door also has an old LJ or two so might be up for a kit or two also?).

How many do you need?

All the best ..

T i m

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T i m

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:07:40 GMT, T i m strung together this:

Dunno what they'll pick up, even if they stick the VAT on it's still cheaper than buying a complete kit over here if I bought 3 from eBay.

I think just one will do me, if this 4+ of mine ever dies it'll be scrapped. I got it for 'nowt and it's still on the toner that came with it! I don't mind ordering an additional kit if needs be, I can always eBay it back off again.

We're looking at ~$70 for 2 or ~$80 for 3 as the reduced shipping kicks in.

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Lurch

Indeed...I have a couple of sets here which cost me less than 25 quid for both (including postage).

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Bob Eager
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Expensive way of going about it. All you need is the two rollers, and they are about 8 quid the pair plus postage. UK sourced. And a couple of circlips if you bend the old ones!

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Bob Eager

Why bother? (found the site)

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RF5-1076 is 3.95 and RF5-1076 is 2.81. Plus postage (flat rate) of 6.80, plus VAT. That's why I bought 2 sets (well, I do have eight of the printers). Fits the LJ4, LJ4+ and the M variants of course.

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Bob Eager

On 7 Feb 2005 22:14:45 GMT, "Bob Eager" strung together this:

You've lost me a bit there, any chance you've got the numbers wrong?

Hmm, mine jams in any position between leaving the paper tray and dropping out of the other end. I think it needs more than two rollers, think I prefer the complete kit for not much moe money.

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Lurch

Sorry, second one is RF5-1077. First one is the upper exit roller that is visible where the paper emerges. Second one is the one halfway up, inside the rear cover.

These two are the principal cause of paper jams.

I doubt that you'll get much more....the fuser rollers are very unlikely to be included for that price. The other main contributors to the paper path are unlikely to cause jams.

The other rollers you might get for your money are the pickup rollers (which you need only if the paper isn't leaving the tray at all) and the transfer roller (necessary only if you have patchy/faint print and you've already tried a new toner cartridge).

Do they tell you what you DO get?

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Bob Eager

On 7 Feb 2005 22:38:28 GMT, "Bob Eager" strung together this:

Ah, that makes more sense!

Not always, sometimes jams just after the the first couple of inches has left the tray.

Well, it comes in the kit, can't do any harm to chuck a new one in!

Kit Includes: MP Roller

1 MP Sep Pad 1 Tray 2 Roller 1 Optional Tray 3 Roller 1 Lower Delivery Roller 1 Upper Delivery Roller 1 Transfer Roller
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Lurch

These are the pickup pair for the middle (manual) tray. They do nothing more than pick up the paper.

Likewise for other trays including the optional 500 sheet jobbie.

The two I mentioned at the start

As I said, only for print quality..I've never had to replace one and I've serviced quite a few. I've also only ever needed one pickup roller

- the MP tray one - and it's matching little pad.

If it isn't these, it's the paper transport mechanism which is a major job. Or, more likely, a problem with the toner cartridge which incorporates a lot of moving parts. Have you tried another?

The delivery rollers usually go first...symptom is that emerging paper is concertina'd at its trailing end. This can jam the following sheet as it starts its travel...

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Bob Eager

Of course they last forever because you are changing (and paying for) the print head every time you change a cartridge and the single cartridge contains all the colours - so if black runs out you have to change the cartridge even tho you have plenty of the other colours left.

Sure you are going to recommend it to clients because its a simple, no come back option for your company, but it will cost your clients a fortune in cartridges.

For the canny consumer, it's a no brainer - go for a printer with seperate ink tanks and at the moment the Canon pixma range are the best and the cheapest. The Pixma iP5000's print head also has the smallest spray head in the business (so the dots of ink on the paper are miniscule) and produces stunning photolab quality prints even at A4 size. I paid about £130 at Jessops.

Rob

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Rob Griffiths

Buy a Canon - they truly are stonking printers - also very very quiet - in comparison other printers sound like gattling guns. Check out the i-photo web site - lots of comparitive reviews.

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Rob Griffiths

It's on order ;-) (ip4000)

also very very quiet -

After my first colour printer (Star LC10 dot matrix) *anything* is quiet!

To be fair the HP's I've had all along have all been pretty quiet (a few clonks when they start up maybe but no 'Epson shuffle') ;-)

Check out the

I have found a few (and quite a bit of good noise on here) .. time will tell though .. ?

All the best ..

T i m

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T i m

Er? Most HP's I've deat with have at least two carts Rob (black and colour?). Also I believe, 'in general' the colours are used at a similar rate? My missus runs a multi cart colour inkjet at work and she suggestes that when one colour carts runs out the others follow in quick succession. I would probably change the colour cart in my 840c once and the black twice a year?

Understood but you would have to factor the cost of the printer itself into the sums if you are chucking them away regularly with blocked nozzles? I still have my first HPDJ500c (possibly 12+ years old) and I KNOW if I stuck a new cart in it it would still print and print well?

I was going to try an Epson C44 (half the price of the ip4000) and with a similar price re carts.

The Pixma iP5000's print head also has the smallest

I'm not into printing pictures regularly (although I like them to be 'reasonable' when I do) and on glossy paper this old HPDJ840c did a very good job at that (better tham most Epsons I have tried). It might be good to print a 'better picture' now-and-again though and possibly the printing on CD/DVD thing could be handy (but a CDmarker pen has worked ok so far and on 'any' CD/DVD ..?)

All the best Rob .. ;-)

T i m

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T i m

But you have to divide the consumables cost by the pages it will do. You may be surprised at the result.

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Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)

So far so good - that's what I said.

Rubbish. All HPs have always had separate black and colour cartridges.

No, wrong again. We only ever use inkjets for very low use situations. Most people tend to have a biggish laser (also HP) for volume, and an inkjet for the odd 2-3 times a month when they might need a photo printed out.

For the canny consumer who doesn't care about print quality, and is willing to spend hours fiddling about with print heads and warm water.

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Grunff

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