Paging Doctor Drivel and Harry...

Has your Pious been recalled yet?

"Toyota has become the third car manufacturer in two weeks to recall its cars because of software problems, with over 625,000 Prius hybrids needing an upgrade to stop the engine suddenly cutting out."

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Mike Tomlinson
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Yes well this is the problem when software gets involved. it does not know what its doing, only what its been told to do from the programming point of view. All it takes is an innocent mod of hardware and zap. Brian

Reply to
Brian-Gaff

There's been a host of such recalls from several car manufacturers.

Perhaps they need to hand over control of their software to a specialist organisation.

Microsoft for instance?

Reply to
Sam Plusnet

I'm sure a recall is cheaper than the debacle Totota suffered only recently!

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Reply to
Fredxxx

I don't have/never had a Prius.

Dunno what's happened to Drivel. Can you stand in for him?

Reply to
harry

En el artículo , harry escribió:

No need, you're doing a perfectly good job as it is.

Reply to
Mike Tomlinson

+1
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Bob Eager

Mike Tomlinson posted

I hired a car recently. It was *designed* so that the engine kept suddenly cutting out. Very irritating.

Reply to
Big Les Wade

Tim Streater posted

Yes I mean when coming to rest. I could understand it if it cut out after, say, 20 or 30 seconds idling. But it cut out almost straightaway

- within two or three seconds. Surely can't do the battery any good.

Reply to
Big Les Wade

Or the starter motor, but that's not the point. The point is a lower CO2 g/km figure, hence lower tax, hence more fleet sales, the increased repair costs most likely don't affect the initial purchaser ...

Reply to
Andy Burns

They'll probably fade away now, because that won't get any advantage in the road tax.

Reply to
Bob Eager

It still affects BIK, if not road fund ....

Reply to
Andy Burns

Stop start cars are lethal, if you forget to turn the damn thing off when you start the engine then they just don't go at the first junction you decide to pull out on fast. I do wonder how many accidents have been caused because someone forgot to disable it? You can make a switch using a 555 timer to auto disable the stop start.

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dennis

Smarts with stop start don't have a starter motor and I doubt if others do either. They use the alternator to start the thing.

Reply to
dennis

Or, they use the starter motor as an alternator.

Reply to
Charles Hope

The Minis do that - luckily there is an override button.

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Tim Watts

The Fraud Fatarse we hired in Ireland was the same.

Reply to
Huge

All the High MPG/eco ones do. You get used to it. Must have a hell of a starter motor. Most of them, light pressure on the acellarator pedal starts the engine.

Reply to
harry

Not lethal at all. Firstly, *every* car with stop/ start tech that I've driven has had a switch to disable it. Secondly, a warm engine will restart quicker than you can get it into gear. The engine will not switch off unless you select neutral.

Tim

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Tim+

On mine you simply have to push the brake pedal hard down for the engine to stop. It will restart if you release the brake or operate the steering wheel or gear shift.

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Charles Hope

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