P A T Testing ?

I am soon to do a PAT Testing course, but before I do, I was trying to find on the internet, some sample questions. I can find loads of places that offer courses etc but no questions.

Can someone please point me in the right direction.

Jim

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the_constructor
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C&G 2377? Considering that the pass rate is around 99%, I think anyone with a slight bit of electrical knowledge does not need to do any revision for it. People who have no previous experience pass it after the 2 day course, and being as it is multi-choice, open book, then it really would be difficult to fail.

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A.Lee

I was trained in less than a day by an elctrical engineer working for a County Council. The important questions revolved around correct fusing of a plug, wiring a plug and knowing the difference between Class I and Class II appliances. The most useful part of the course when we were given test oieces of equipment, most of which would fail and most drove home the point that the visual inspection was the most important part of the test. Malcolm

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Malcolm

I have not done the PAT testing course as it is of no use to me (although I can use a PAT tester). However the correct procedure used by those that do PAT testing is usually to just run their hands down the appliance flex and then pass the appliance.

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ARWadsworth

  • sit around drinking tea, as proven by security cameras at my (ex) place of work. (apologies for the 4 letter word).

Bus passes, free prescriptions etc etc, bloody marvellous.

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brass monkey

Three weeks to go for bus pass...had free prescriptions for 18 months though!

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Bob Eager

Nothing wrong with the 4 letter word. I am not the only person that enjoys it.

You old git:-)

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ARWadsworth

Seconded - it is very easy...

As usual, the best approach is to get the guide book, read it twice before the course, then concentrate on getting the most out of the instructor while you have him for reality based questions, especially for all the edge cases like "what tests are safe on IT equipment" and stuff like that.

And if you want a little diversion, ask him to name an instance of Class 0 equipment :)

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Tim Watts

Yea, but what about work? ;)

Guilty as charged. I tell you what though, I'm sure we never saw modern young ladies, like we do now, when i was 16 :D Most enjoyable.

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brass monkey

Old brass lamp holder wired with figure 8 type cable ?

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the_constructor

An understanding of voltage and current, ohms law, and basic principles of a transformer and fuse is all that's really required before reading the IEE code of practice manual.

I paid for a course at Able in Kent, which was the first chance I got to see, and use, the do everything tester kit that PAT testers carry around to test various classes of equipment. A little practical assessment test was done as part of the PAT course structure Able run, which dots the i's and crosses the t's with regard to the C&G certificate (well, they said..?)

I scored 100% and walked out of the exam room 3/4 hours early.

Thankfully, I didn't become one of the many monkeys running about doing bulk PAT and stickering, paid by the plugtop. I do much more exciting stuff.

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Adrian C

Why would one actually need a course for it, after all most of the test gear almost operates itself. I'm surprised they have not given monkeys some jobs doing this.. Brian

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Brian Gaff

Best thing about a bus pass is winding up those just too young to have one.

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Dave Plowman (News)

It is 20 years since I last caught a bus or train.

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ARWadsworth

You'll find reasons to when you get a pass.

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Dave Plowman (News)

In message , brass monkey wrote

And stick a "dangerous appliance" sticker on new equipment because they are too blind to see the label that the equipment has been registered in the company system.

Or even more helpful, test the equipment one day and cross it off the list. In a busy lab environment the equipment now moves benches. The PAT tester then find the equipment again and because he can no longer find it on the outstanding list rips off the test label from the day before and puts a dangerous appliance sticker ion it.

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Alan

Yep. I now regularly park on the edge of a town and get the bus in. It usually drops me closer to the centre than I can park and there are no parking charges. I'd not used a bus for decades before I got the pass.

Colin Bignell

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Nightjar

Most of the test failures cannot be picked up by the test gear. So your comment perfectly illustrates why you need the training.

BTW, most of those who fail the exam are electricians. You need a rudimentary understanding of ohms law, and to understand the difference between megohms and milliohms, and many of them struggled with that.

The course and exam is designed to be achieveable by people who are not electricians, but have a rudimentary understanding of ohms law and how to wire a plug. The idea was very much that most commercial premises of any moderate size would be likely to have someone on the staff who would be capable of being trained to perform the PAT testing so it can be done as and when required, and should not require bringing in specialists.

If you do bring in electricians, you should verify that the staff undertaking the testing have C&G 2377/02 certificates, as most electricians don't know how to do it, in which case you're wasting your money, and possibly worse. If you are responsible for managing or subcontracting PAT testing, you should have C&G 2377/01 (in which case you will know all of the above). Each of the above are usually taken after at the end of a day's training, often together (consecutive days) as there's a degree of overlap. HSE recognise these as appropriate training for PAT testing.

Most companies who don't have someone with C&G 2377/01 organising their PAT testing do the testing far too often, and rather ineffectively, which means they are spending too much money on it and getting no benefit.

I defined the PAT procedures in an SME I worked for. I later worked for a large finance company which also had a superb PAT test procedure. However, most other companies I've worked for are in the category of not knowing what they're doing and having ineffective expensive processes.

And before someone pulls me up on it, yes I know it's not called PAT testing, but everyone will know what I mean, whereas they won't if I use the right name.

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Andrew Gabriel

Also look for a course where you can get your hands on a variety of different testers, particularly if you will be buying one afterwards. Different testers are best for different things (e.g. IT equipment, verses hand tools), and different rates of testing (e.g. occasional, verses continuous).

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Andrew Gabriel

Aye, it's cheaper to sit on a bus than put the heating on at home ;-(

Owain

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Owain

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