OTish Power Point

[harryagain]

I have been messing with Power Point. Obviously one can transfer JPG pictures (and other stuff) into it very easily. But how does one get it out? eg recover and save a picture in jpg from it to somewhere other than another PP page.?

If you cut&paste it comes up as a PP "scrap"

And you can transfer stuff to Word documents but they remain a "scrap".

[Martin Brown]

It isn't clear what you mean here. When I cut and paste an image from PPT it comes up as a populated bitmap that can be resaved how I like. Paste it into Irfanview or any other image capable application.

But if you want to force PPT to export original images then the simplest way would be to save as "Other Formats" HTML Web Page. You well may be disappointed if the images were inserted by drag and drop.

All the Office Products do mildly insane things with inserted images leading to huge bloat depending on exactly how they were inserted.

[Clive George]

IME since 2003-ish and possibly 2000, office has actually been very good with inserted images. We tell users to send us screenshots pasted into word or excel, because internally they're converted to png or something and the resulting doc is nice and small.

[Martin Brown]

You must have very limited experience then. I have seen corporate documents that have lived through various versions of Excel and grown to >40MB of which only 2-4MB is actual genuine data content and the rest is orphanned metadata and/or bitmaps. It is particularly bad when documents get edited repeatedly by more than one version of Word/Excel and people use drag and drop to add the images.

Export to HTML is one way to identify and remove the dross - although these days for archiving I suggest they print to PDF which is easier.

Freshly created Office documents are not usually a problem.

[The Natural Philosopher]

I take screenshots :-)

[Tim Streater]

For a Word doc I think you could:

1) Select All and copy to a *new* document 2) Delete the final paragraph marker. I'm told lots of shit lurks inside it

[John Williamson]

First, disable the fast save option in Word, and preferably in *all* MS Office programs. This stops them from just appending changes to the end of the document along with data telling it where to insert the changes when you're viewing and working on it.

Secondly, use the "Save as" command to save a new copy under a new name, using maybe $documentname(1).doc. This saves the document as it is in its current state, and loses all the stuff appended by fast save. If you then delete the original and rename $documentname(1) to $documentname.doc, you get all the disc space and responsiveness back.

There is a "Full Save" command in some versions, too, which will consolidate all the changes without having to "Save As",then delete and rename.

Both these tricks work in all version of MS Office from at least Office '97 onwards. The downside is that files take fractionally longer to save when you've finished with them, but with modern HDs, you'll probably not notice the difference.

There's a security benefit, too, as, using Fast Save, until the changes are consolidated, all edits can be undone, and all the bits where you or a co-worker changed the document can be seen, as can the name of the user who made the edit. The deleted parts can also be viewed by just opening a file in a text editor.

[Owain]

Isn't there an 'export this slide as jpeg' option somewhere on the file menu?

Owain

[harryagain]

Isn't there an 'export this slide as jpeg' option somewhere on the file menu?

Owain

Thanks folks. I'll have a further go at it some time today.