OT. Windows 8 nearly drove me insane

[Cursitor Doom]

Yeah, come to Linux and get similar crap but for free.

[Cursitor Doom]

I feel your pain. Seems there's no easy way to cut oneself off from MS dependency without a world of aggro from the inadequate alternatives. :(

[Huge]

[Cursitor Doom]

I'm f*cking speechless, Huge. I thought Jobs had masterminded his own unique OS for the Ipad and whatnot from scratch! Never would have believed BSD underlied it in a million years. SMFH in disbelief!

[John Williamson]

I am, yet again, in the throes of trying to get Linux (Mint 16) to work with the best hardware I can afford to record sound and video and use my bluetooth linked phone as a 3G modem.

All "just work" under Windows with the appropriate drivers. None are cutting edge items, and all work well with any version of Windows from XP to 7. The reason I've tried Linux is because I want to avoid Windows

8, in the same way and for similar reasons as I dodged ME and Vista.

I will shortly be removing Linux once more and restoring the boot sector of the HD, and possibly replacing the XP with Windows 7, pending Windows 9.

On the other hand, if I were just surfing the 'net and doing normal office work and e-mails, I'd probably get away with using Linux. I know this, because all the programs I use for this are open Source ones that have been ported from Linux.

[Tim Streater]

OS X is certainly BSD. I don't know and con't care about ios.

[The Natural Philosopher]

I WAS thinking of OS-X..let's look at IOS instead.. YUp. Based on Darwin same as OS-X

So every I-BolloxThing is running at core level BSD UNIX.

Not sure wjherte you got te idea that BSD unix is poor on relaibilitrytho.

Praps you have better tell apple..

Linux ruins under as well as being te base of all linux desktop distros.

BSD runs under ALL apple bling. Largely IIRC for commercial reasons.

Only Microsoft has its own abortion that isn't *nix derived.

Its what runs on top that is more obvious though.

[The Natural Philosopher]

:-)

There is a grain of truth in that.

Conversation with mate who sold me old acer laptop

"I sold it to you because it wouldn't run anything but XP"

"well I got it as far ans Mint 14 before I ran into hardware compatibility issues, and that's better than XP!"

"You done all right then".

[The Natural Philosopher]

What? its common knowledge that OSX and IOS are Unix with a pretty face., Why reinvent the wheel?

[John Rumm]

IIUC OS X is based on the work done at NeXT while jobs was out of the apple frame.

[John Rumm]

One might argue its VMS derived...

[Tim Streater]

Wasn't that the NT flavour courtesy of Dave Cutler? Even then he had to be ordered to graft the drive letter shit on top of something that was otherwise not bad, AIUI.

[dennis]

What was the problem? Win8 isn't much different to win7. Its quite different to XP.

You can make it very similar to either by installing classic shell but there isn't any real problems without it.

Just bought one of those medion netbooks from asda with win 8 on for the wife and I won't be putting classic shell on it (looks pretty good for the money £169 on the web but I only paid £150).

[dennis]

I recently updated mine and it was 880 Mbytes. I don't know why you would need 3600 Mbytes.

[Andy Burns]

That sounds like the size of the recent 8.1 to 8.1U1 update, not the 8 to 8.1 update.

[dennis]

That's what firewalls are for. You may have one in your router.

[polygonum]

I think you are right - though I didn't take much notice of the 8.1U1 size.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Microsofts history is having to make each new prince backwards compatible with a royal abortion that should have been laid to rest in around 1993.

They had the chance then with Xenix and a share in SCO to actually create an OS that worked. They muffed it. Well on fact they didnt, they created the whole PC-UNIX thing that lead in the end to Linux!

Every time -the same thing happened with OS/2 - they could have done an OS-X and jumped from msdos to a better foundation they chickened out and NT was severely compromised by being dOSSIFIED.

[Mark]

and Xubuntu is the best of all, why it is less popular then all the other buntu?s is a mystery to me.

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[Johny B Good]

Not forgetting the NAS4Free developers and their user base too.