OT: Windows 1, Linux 5

[The Natural Philosopher]

..and most older winprinters dont have drivers for even modern windows.

In shirt if you have a winprinter, bin it now.

[mick]

Samsung seem to be pretty good at supplying "proper" linux drivers for their printers. It might be an idea to check their web site with a particular printer in mind.

[mick]

I wondered about that, but the next quad CPU up in the family is one that is offered as an option by the manufacturer using that m/board. In theory the Value ram should take the full fsb of the m/board.

[T i m]

Ok. What model did you get please Mick (assuming it's still available)?

Cheers, T i m

[dennis]

Mine doesn't, spc240dn. But I knew that and I only bought it because it was cheap at £45 for a colour laser and you can refill it. Its a raster printer so unless someone has done a raster driver for it which I can't find.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Lies as usual

You couldn't find your arse with both hands shoved up your rectum.

[dennis]

You're kidding I only bought it three weeks ago.

Works realy well on windows.

Refill the carts a couple of time and buy a new one.

[dennis]

Well that page is crap..

It doesn't do postscript so why does it tell you to download a postscript driver?

Its a winprinter.

[T i m]

And why would you want to bin a Winprinter designed at the time of XP when you are still running XP? It's just poor old TNP showing how jealous he is he doesn't have the option of such things. Mind you, he's already admitted he only really uses his Linux PC as a typewriter so a dot-matrix printer is probably quite 'modern' for him. ;-)

Cheap enough eh.

Like Winmodems did. ;-)

If you have to you mean?

Cheers, T i m

[T i m]

Not *quite* as easy as having it autoinstall or running the supplied Windows installer CD eh?

Good to know it should be useable (on Linux) though.

Cheers, T i m

[dennis]

I wouldn't rely on it.

TNP can't read.

I have a spc240dn that page is for an spc420dn. They are not the same printer. One has PS3 and the other is a winprinter.

[Bob Eager]

I have a cheapie Samsung colour laser on the network (most B&W printing is done by a LaserJet 4M+ that is 22 years old).

The Samsung works well from Windows and FreebSD. On FreeBSD I just say it's a PostScript printer. Management is done over the web.

[Martin Barclay]

I have a Samsung Colour Laserjet & it works perfectly with my openSUSE setup.

[T i m]

No I wouldn't spend any actual money on it, not till I got it checked out.

That or fully comprehend in many cases it seems.

Doh. Well, don't forget with Linux you often have to choose the nearest offering so that was probably what he was doing without even thinking (bless). ;-)

Basically any combination of a 2, 4 and 0 and loads of luck! ;-)

(ITRW, many of these printers are based on the same engine so 'lucky dip' can often work).

That said, there is no way I would suggest a Winprinter knowing Linux may be on the scene (even if they have got some working under Linux).

Cheers, T i m

[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo , Martin Barclay escribió:

D i m is a troll, pure and simple. Belongs in the bin with Wodney, madams, etc.

Best place for him.

[T i m]

Yup, that footer says it all about Tomlinson and just how 'biased' he is and (therefore) reasonable and open-minded he isn't.

I don't blame him though, he simply can't help it, like many you find drawn to these minority interests who become fanatical, they seem to share a certain 'way' that allows them to believe that their views and opinions are more valid than anyone else's (and that they are 'better' than most others). ;-(

And whilst I'm very happy to be in their cowardly killfiles (it saves me having to waste time correcting all their lies and bs) it doesn't seem to stop them reading AND replying (including accusing me of not responding to them when they ask me to, even when I do!) to threads I start or replies I make to others ... or talking about me (typically making up further lies or spreading FUD) in general?

All part of their same psychosis and lack of confidence (in themselves and their chosen doG / lifestyle). ;-(

Cheers, T i m

p.s. I thought the PC I built (that started this thread) was fine under Linux (It was always fine under W10) after replacing one of the two 4G RAM modules. I took it to my inlaws, installed it on their network, connected it to their new HP MFP (that does print *and* scan over the network on Linux) and left them with what I believed was a stable machine. However, it crashed in Mint with what appears to be the same fault yesterday and again today. She was just using 'Calc' in Libre office so nothing 'stressful'. I've asked her to keep a log of when it crashes and what she was in at the time. Apparently the symptoms are exactly the same I was seeing all along:

Mate in the PC shop has also built an identical PC running Mint 17.2 (upgraded to 17.3 online) and we ran videos on that for an hour yesterday and it was fine. He has ordered some Kingston (instead of Crucial) RAM, a duplicate Gigabyte motherboard and another SSD so we should have all bases covered.

[Weatherlawyer]

How stressed might the motherboard be with 8 GB of Ram. A lot of oldish one s can only manage 4 GB

ve it sounds like you could also have a board that is up to date too.

If you look at the Chris Were vidoes you will find that he kept a dual boot Windows and linux system operating until Windows 10. Since Windows 7 is go ing OOD soon and as Windows 8 was a dog, he decided that he didn't need Mic rosot spyware and its intrusive and unmitigated Windows 10 patching. Read i t for yourself:

He is serialising different distros these days. You might want to introduce your betters to Arch or an Arch derivative.

I have had Windows 7 on here for about a month and \s far i am concerned th at is a month too long. It will be back on Linux byt may. I'm not sure what version though. I am starting to look at tails or USB live stuff.

The thing is what is to be gained in old age by holding back? My only real wish is for a Linux User Group locally. There is a problem see ding a significant starting number with such things though.

[Weatherlawyer]

I have re-experience of the biggest problem with Windows7 and it is third p arty antiviral ware. AVG had to go VFDQ and so far the free version of Avast is a nuisance that needs to sell me something to cure 2 known problems.

It really isn't too bad apart from insisting on telling me repeatedly and l oudly that they found a threat (usually in the middle of a video presentati on. Maybe I should be more discerning about where I get videos?

That is the problem with freeware, it isn't designed for Microsoft. In fact , I do understand that the more cats you have the larger your Net needs to be and the cost of computer plumbing will go up accordingly but their whole ethos is built into the way that hardware needs upgrading. There is no rea son that a motherboard should need to be replaced for more RAM is there? Not at the design stage?

Is there?

[The Natural Philosopher]

+100 on that

Yes.

Typically they can only design for what class of RAM is available at the time. If the density goes up that means a lot more decode to access the new higher density boards.

And if the OS only can access 3.9GB, what's the point in a board that can handle 16GB?

MoBo production costs are pared to the bone.

Wandering slightly off topic,. last night I trashed an old windows 7 HP laptop installation for Linux Mint. It installed without any issues at all, even oddly enough working out of the box on Wifi DESPITE informing me that wifi was disabled until I installed broadcom drivers.

Its now several times faster on net access than it was with Win7 + Spyware + Anti- Spyware + Anti Virus+ Adware + fragged disk etc etc

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[T i m]

Ok.

?

Strange, never had it try to sell me anything and I've been using it across all my Windows machine (XP-10) for a long time? It's often offered me 'upgrades', to the full version etc but that's about it?

I think you can tell it to stay in the background, like when playing a game (or video)?

Maybe. ;-)

I'm not quite sure what that means? Yes it (can be) freeware and the 'Windows versions' are 'designed for' Windows?

Hmm, I have several fairly old PC's running Windows 10 as fast as they run Linux (for example) so I'm not quite with you on that either?

No, except, 'progress' often means bigger and faster and therefore you often do need more RAM and disk space than you did when say running in the CLI.

My 1098 Morris Minor Van did 70 mph (just) and 50 mpg many many years ago and yet we think 50 mpg is 'good' today. The difference is that we are having to do 50 mpg with a load more weight because of all the 'must have' gadgets and all the safety stuff. Does a 50" TFT TV use less power than a 18" CRT TV? Can you play Blu-Rays on your DVD player?

See above?

Cheers, T i m