OT the cost of immigration

[Capitol]

And now they are swamped with immigrants.

[Capitol]

Still trying to make the workers poorer Dave? Try having some commercial experience, the EU needs us more than we need them.

[Capitol]

Germany is heading that way unless we bale them out, which Camoron is likely to do. If the Remain camp win, I expect him to take in 200K refugees per year for 5 years in order to bolster his chances of becoming President. of the EU. The US is a basket case, their national debt is massive and the recession is coming. In Texas and the other oil producing states, there is rapidly growing unemployment and a shrinking housing market. It is compounded by many of the US population being unemployable even as cannon fodder.

[dennis]

What do they need us for?

[The Natural Philosopher]

No way to talk about the POTUS!

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Still trying to make the rich richer at the expense of the poor? After all that's what's happened over the last few years.

Perhaps in BHS? Steal the worker's pensions then expect the state to provide?

That's a gamble sensible people won't take.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Right. We obviously need stronger ties with China, then. But wait - they're not doing as well as once.

So let's just pull up the drawbridge. The UK doesn't need anyone else to prosper. We produce everything we need. And have unlimited natural resources.

[charles]

and food!

[Fredxxx]

Are you sure the contribution, at least from Norway, isn't voluntary?

[3899jk]

Doesn?t mean that either of them are economic basket cases or third world countries economically tho.

In fact it was the uncontrolled immigration to the US that eventually allowed it to completely dominate the entire world economically.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Money, brains and as place to dump surplus population.

[The Natural Philosopher]

As usual the Plowidiot cant tell the difference between Europe the geographic entity, Europe the society, Europe the collection of cultures and nations, and the EU.

Why agree with him? It just makes you look as stupid.

[Jack Brown]

Yes.

That's a lie.

Another lie with the power generation industry alone, let alone the railways.

Done the socialist way, by the govt.

Still proves that doing it the socialist way can work very well indeed.

The real problem for Britain is that everyone else took that stuff and ran with it and Britain bankrupted itself with two world wars and had to be bailed out by the yanks, twice.

Like hell it was. It was pissed against the wall on socialist stupidities.

None of that would have been needed if Britain had not bankrupted itself paying for two world wars.

[Richard]

Most of us. You 'n Dave, not so much.

[Richard]

You know what to do rod.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Norway, liker the USA succeeded because, like the USA there is a very high ratio of natural resource to population, and both have succeeded DESPITE socialism, not because of it.

[Jack Brown]

Japan does in fact do quite a bit of its manufacturing in China.

[Jack Brown]

He'd never get that past the rest of the cabinet.

In fact they have one of the lowest unemployment rates of the majors in the entire world and it is still where almost all of the full commercialisation of almost everything happens first.

Some basket case.

It was much higher in real terms as the war ended and they survived that fine.

Recessions always do, and get survived anyway.

Bullshit. The fracking industry is booming.

That stopped quite a while ago now.

Must be why so many illegals keep pouring over the border.

[Bob Eager]

Yes, let's hope the lithium mines aren't in Scotland.

[Jack Brown]

That is just plain wrong with the oil and gas and power generation systems in Norway.

And the success of the US has very little to do with the ratio of natural resource to population, it was all about the immense numbers of immigrants and how immigrants operate that did it.

Same with Britain with immigration for that matter.