OT: Recession Coming?

[78lp]

Yes, plenty of them do know that stuff. But with those who do know that they like doing sport or practical things, or even stuff like being into music etc, schools tend to just ignore that.

Another I knew who realised that academic stuff didn?t interest him decided to give up on school well before it was legal for him to do that. I had some real reservations about that and so did his mother who was a high school teacher, his dad had died.

He did manage to do very well for himself indeed, basically doing all the media stuff for the most important golf tournaments etc.

But there aren't all that many people who can manage something like that.

[Capitol]

The philosophy was that you trained apprentices who then went elsewhere, but you recruited other peoples apprentices who had an alternative skill set, so the business prospered.

It was around1984 that a local company made all their apprentices redundant! I was appalled at the short term management thinking.

[Capitol]

With conscription, the army reputedly could teach anyone basic reading in 12 weeks! No effort = no weekend pass!

[Nightjar]

Not probable. The steel industry problems were expected and won't make a lot of difference overall, particularly as our economy is being driven mainly by the services sector and domestic demand at present.

We can expect a slowing of growth, from an anticipated 2.6% in 2015 to

2.4% in 2016, as compared to 2016 figures of 2.0% for Germany and 1.7% for France. Unemployment is falling, from 7.6% in 2013 to 6.1% in 2014, an estimated 5.4% in 2015 and a projected 5.3% in 2016. This should lead to above inflation rates of wage rises, which should increase domestic demand, which should, in turn, help support the economy.

[Brian-Gaff]

Yes is the simply answer.

The problem of course is that no one government or indeed country can now do anything to change what happens. its rather like using gyros to stabilise and control your orientation. When you either get to the min or max speed of the gyros, you need to stop them, re energise them to their normal speed etc, and then restart. In space you can use rockets while you do this, but in this analogy, the economy's gyro is the control of interest rates and money supply. Sadly we have no analogy for the rockets! Brian

[78lp]

Sure, the education system was clearly hopeless when anyone who wasn't actually blind etc wasn't taught to read.

[Mike Tomlinson]

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

So that means you're not between 50-80?

Rather a broad statement?

As was always the case.

Did wonder how this huge number of kids who can't read or write still manage to use a smart phone?

[Tim Streater]

And a large number of jobs that they might be interested in, they've never heard of. And neither have their teachers.

It would be more use if schools had a weekly careers lesson, with the teacher, each week, introducing a new person from the world of work each each to speak to the children about different types of job at their place of work.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

It's rather a two edge sword. If kids are taught the basics at home before school age, they're going to be pretty bored when it's all gone over again.

[Tim Streater]

When I started I certainly couldn't read, write, and had probably never held a pencil. So what.

[DJC]

But then you get fly-by-night companies offering 'apprenticeships' in order to tap the government subsidy. Rather like the various training schemes in the past which created training companies that didn't provide much beyond a way to kick people off the dole for a few months.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Exactly. Government shouldn't offer cash, it should offer taxation and regulatory environment in which new companies can be competetive.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

The BBC used to run training schemes covering most of the skills needed in broadcasting. As did at least one of the ITV companies.

All gone now. Replaced by degrees in media studies from unis, etc. None of which are anywhere close to the specialised training offered by those companies.

[dennis]

Well that doesn't happen if the schooling is streamed properly. This comprehensive schooling is just stupid and good teachers will stream whatever the government says.

[dennis]

When I get someone who tells me their kids really understand computers I ask them to get IMAP setup on my old android phone. It usually turns out they only know how to play games.

Remember smart phone are dumbed down so you don't need to know much to use one, apple more so than most.

[Capitol]

They are only bored if the school isn't up to standard. All reception classes have a wide range of abilities so teachers have to deal with children on an individual basis. The days of standardised lessons have passed.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

So much so someone who can't read and write could send and read an SMS?

[Tim Streater]

If the device is any good you shouldn't need to know anything in order to use it. That's the definition of an appliance. Don't forget the joke about the computer scientist.

[Andrew Gabriel]

The first thing that happened is that people had to agree to repay external training costs if they left within something like 2 years. That was quickly hit on the head, because it was discovered companies can't claim training expenditure against tax if they do this (although it's quite limited what training a company can claim against tax anyway).