OT: Last Coalmine Closure Query

[Dave Plowman (News)]

It's uneconomic to employ UK born builders when immigrants will do the job for so much less. Same with many jobs.

So I take it you're now in favour of unrestricted immigration?

[dennis]

Unless there is oxygen in the water the props wont corrode. Thats why you can dig stuff up in swamps and the like that is hundreds of years old and not rotted.

[dennis]

The problem is that the stuff leaks out unless you maintain the storage site and you would have to do that forever as it doesn't decay away like radioactive waste does. The costs would be infinite and as maintenance would cost more and more energy then it may actually release more CO2 than you have stored after a period of time. The whole idea is a fairy story invented by a green somewhere.

[Tim Streater]

You are michael adams AICMFP. He also attacks arguments no one has made.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

It's a very valid argument. If the only criteria is how much goods or services cost.

If it is cheaper to import coal and put a vast number of people out of work but not care about that side of it, why is it wrong to use cheap immigrant labour and not care about any side effects of immigration?

Of course it's no surprise to find plenty who think it perfectly ok to buy the very cheapest materials from abroad regardless of the social consequences or indeed the effect to the home industry.

[michael adams]

Baloney.

I would never suggest such a thing. As even a numpty like your best mate Turnip would appreciate that unrestricted immigration, sorry migration, makes costly demands on basic infrastructure such as housing, schools, and the NHS. Unlike importing raw materials in bulk carriers.

You really are a twerp of the first maginitude Streater.

While you're perfectly at liberty to demonstrate your stupidity in any way you see fit, I'd much appreciate it if you didn't attempt to graft your stupidity onto me, by putting words in my mouth.

michael adams

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[Tim Streater]

criterion

Who said no-one cares about that side of it?

Interviewed on the Today program, some miners said they were too old to do anything different. So they're giving up on retraining just like that.

[michael adams]

Did I really ? Now when was that, then ?

Can you remember ?

To be quite frank with you Timmy, given your obvious state of confusion and bewilderment, I'd imagine you must "wonder" about quite a lot of things. "Globalisation", "Capitalism", "boots, trunks, fenders", "compensation", to name but a few.

You weren't subject to harmful rays in the course of your work, by any chance were you?

michael adams

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[michael adams]

In answer to your question :yes it's deliberately included to annoy people such as yourself whose Newsreaders are apparently so inefficient that they force their users to scroll right to the bottom of posts, whether they choose to or not. Although quite what they expect to find there is anybody's guess.

michael adams

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[Tim Streater]

Ah dear me did I get that wrong? No matter, that resolves a slight mystery: you're just dim.

[Tim Streater]

Ah so it's meaningless then, like the rest of the post.

[michael adams]

You just concentrate on your specialised subjects; ad-hominems, and now it would appear vocabulary flames*: IOW anything to distract attention away from your seemingly singular [mis]understanding of concepts such as globalisation, capitalism, compensation etc etc.

Yup. That's sure to work.

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In this particular instance, the phrase "truly pathetic", doesn't really do you justice, I'm afraid.

michael adams

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[michael adams]

Oh really ?

So you're in the habit of responding to what you take to be meaningless communications, are you ?

That appears to be taking the idea of "useless activity", to a whole new level.

michael adams

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[cl]

I doubt the pit props will corrode much under water, there's no oxygen supply.

[Vir Campestris]

The social consequences of not having old men dying slowly of pneumoconiosis, or having children lose their fathers in accidents?

Being a miner was a pretty shit job. Everyone knew it; the pay was good enough that some would take the risk.

Andy

[bert]

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

Are you? As has been reported recently despite unemployment falling wages are not rising as much as would be expected because the labour market is expanding, mostly by immigration.

[bert]

In article , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes

Well if we had a budget surplus like Germany we might be able to afford some subsidy, but we haven't so we can't.

[Johnny B Good]

====snip====

Actually, it's called thorium. :-)

Mind you, we'll still need some enriched uranium to initiate a thorium based reactor.

[Adrian]

Not to mention the "social cohesion"/"class" - "it were good enough for my father, and his father before him, so you'll do it too, lad..."

[The Natural Philosopher]

NO. WE have no established certified thorium reactor designs.

It's still a tricky thing to utilise.

It will come, but not yet.