Wonder just how many extra staff will be needed to book in all those on JSA who will now be required to sign in every day? And what about those who can't walk to their sign in place? Will they be allowed to claim for travel expenses?
This idea might please The Mail - but has it been thought through?
I think he said 'those who have been unemployed for over two years' and just 5% of JSA claims, so it's not going to be a flood. Also I don't think it's only DM readers who object to people sitting in their bums all day. It might just make some think they can't continue with doing nothing.
Do you really think any normal healthy person would sit on their bum doing nothing all day? Do you do that when not working?
You know full well that's a figure of speech. No they're working cash in hand or engaged in something dodgy and this is just an attempt to put a spanner in the works and chip away at the benefits bill. Why are you so supportive of the work shy?
Anyway your point was that is was a job creation scheme and it isn't.
So you are a Mail reader. ;-)
I'm not - if they truly are.
It is going to need a lot more people in the job centres to run it effectively. Doing what is totally non productive work.
is watching television or playing video games "doing nothing"?
Subscriber !!
They already do that anyway.
I hope they remember to do it at different times each day and week.
I expect that most of those unemployed for 2+ years are fiddling and are actually working and claiming.
The ones that aren't probably are sitting on their bums doing nothing.
On Monday 30 September 2013 17:14 Dave Plowman (News) wrote in uk.d-i-y:
Yep - seen it first hand (hint, my first job was in a JobCentre!)
There were genuinely unemployable people, but there were people who seemed fit enough signing on forever...
Hope you soon found something better. I've only had to deal with them once
- just after being made redundant in the early '90s, and signing on for the first and only time in my life, and found them to be absolutely useless. Tried it on - saying I wasn't entitled to unemployment benefit as I'd had a redundancy payment - then talked rubbish about me re-training for a different job. When I'd made it perfectly plain I expected to earn a decent living as a free-lance in my existing one. As it proved to be.
And in large areas of the country there is simply no work to be had. And in areas where there is low paid work available, affordable accommodation isn't.
Well....there's one key factor to bear in mind, which is that this will never be implemented as it's a party conference policy, cooked up in a panic to find some way to please the party faithful (ie the Mail) following the unseemly panic about the remote possibility of an energy price freeze reducing the excess profits of some of call-me-Dave's mateys.
On the other hand, the support for house-buyers might go through as a) it was in the pipeline anyway, b) they have to do something that gets the economy moving a bit and c) its greatest benefit will be for those who already own homes (including, of course, the readership of said rag) and will be able to move/cash in.
Why do people make the stupid assumption that anyone agrees with everything any paper says? In many ways I'm a socialist but I also recognise it doesn't work. Personally I'd like to see buy-to-let taxed out of existence - I wouldn't mind one bit if the price of my own house crashed - and houses once more be seen as homes for families and not simply investment vehicles for the few. I also support Trades Unions, though their democratisation needed to be given a chance to work. We need to take the middle road but politics is too crude to allow that to work.
P.S We also need to see far more promotion of DIY so youngsters are encouraged to buy less pristine places and do them up themselves, instead of paying someone else £1000s to do it for them, as we all once did.
And everything else.
At the weekend, my more technical and practically-minded son got his ear metaphorically chewed off.
"Dad - we need a new toaster." "Why?" "The red light on the old one has fallen back into the case a bit".
He did agree this was overkill when I had: (a) Dismantled it and found it had been broken by careless use (dropping something on it). Not really repairable. (b) Shown him that the replacement was snapping a new one in and attaching two spade connectors. (c) Ordered a new one on eBay.
and
(d) Pointed out that the toaster cost £130. (no more debate about Dualits, though - please)
What excess profits? The energy companies make less money than Tesco. Nobody complains about Tesco. At least, not about their profits.
And what *are* "excess profits", anyway? Do you really want to live in a society where the State decides how much profit companies can make? After all, that worked *so* well in the Soviet Union, didn't it?
Andy Cap scribbled...
A lot of youngsters are working all the hours under the sun to stand still, they don't always have the time to get involved in DIY. Where will they pick up the skills to enable them to work on their own homes? Evening classes are long gone and there are now regulations regarding who's allowed to undertake electrical & gas work - probably because too many DIY's were prats.
Bob Eager scribbled...
You need a windoze flying toaster.
On 2013-10-01, Artic
On Tuesday 01 October 2013 00:16 Dave Plowman (News) wrote in uk.d-i-y:
This was 1991 - so needs must :) Indeed - moved onto the the IT section in Area Office, the Regional Office in London then onto universities.
I worked there for weeks before I was sent for proper training... For the first week I was running over to the supervisor to check pretty much everything. They did not give me a easy job like basic signing on or putting the jobs out on the boards - no, they gave me a job on the Restart team so everyone asked some sort of awkward question!
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