Or I could mention it here as a point for discussion.
Or I could mention it here as a point for discussion.
In message , Davey writes
There are some at the local Park and Ride stop. And I've seen them around in a few other car parks and other places.
I saw one last weekend at a services on the M1. It could cope witn 2 cars at once. There seemed to be two different connectors, on single phase and one 3 phase.
Try reading up about them. They've been sued for the battery going so flat it had to be replaced. Not covered by warranty.
But not at the same time. You can only get that sort of range by driving it like a Pious. With a very timid driver.
Try starting with a Ferrari with a full tank of petrol and a fully charged Tesla. Now get the Tesla to try and keep up with an enthusiastically driven one. And see what the range actually is. I've heard under 30 miles.
That might be happening, but I heard it would take until 2021 to make enough for 1 extra space mission if we started last year.
It also costs much more to make it today than it did to make the original stock pile that's almost run out, and that's probably more than most space research programmes are likely to be able to afford.
Isn't it just conventional battery technology packaged in a different way? The cost effectiveness will depend on the initial cost of the device (£3K) and how long before you have to replace it (a 1000 charge/discharge cycles in 3 years?)
I see no quoted figures for efficiency.
The success of the project seems to be dependant on _Government_ subsidies for green energy and the falling price of Lithium. In the UK there are no Government subsidies - just the 15% green/social tax on all our gas/electricity bills.
Or just buy it from Syria
But the cost will not be pennies for the charge. When there are a million charging points the Government may think its a good way of raising tax income.
But some battery technologies are not practically scalable. I guess there must have been a fortune spent researching batteries for hand help portable equipment but so far they haven't found anything that can run a modern smart phone for more than a day or two per charge.
But it's not storing it in the sense of being able to convert it back to usable electricity easily and efficiently - so it doesn't compare with a battery and inverter.
Just how do panels *store* electricity?
Is that some sort of Pope-mobile?
Probably in the battery this thread is about.
Not a chance, you watch. For the same reason you don?t have one, the price.
If it has enough range. Working today, 120 mile round trip and that is one of the closer locations. For a single day a 300 mile round trip is about my limit.
A colleague has a hybrid, he's always blagging energy from the generator. How "green" is that? Wouldn't it be better to burn the diesel in the car?
They are popping up, I think I've seen one actually being used. Once.
Trouble is stopping for a hour every 100 miles instead of 10 mins every 550+ isn't very convenient.
It's not.
Or as I've said before at the bottom of each windmill. Makes them dispatchable and thus able to sell at premium prices. Take away the subsidies and let them prove their economic case.
In essence yes, though the batteries aren't the same as in the cars apparently, the chemistry has been tweaked to suit this application (the car batteries are more suited to lots of cycling).
There is a 10 year battery warranty apparently
I guess they are aiming for cheaper batteries in the future, Tesla are building a big factory, what they call a Gigafctory in Nevada to produce batteries. Which they claim will reduce the cost by 30%
Consumer applications in the uk are a bit limited I think. I imagine the early customers will be people with solar systems (which I imagine makes more sense in California or where ever)
Sure, I don't imagine an electric car would suit your usage, but lots of people have regular, predictable commutes, of fairly short distances (average car commuting distance is about 10 miles IIRC).. so an electric car could well be suited to those people e.g. as second family car.
No, indeed not, which is obviously going to limit the appeal of electric vehicles :-) Though Tesla have fast charging stations which can give 50% charge is about 20 mins.
It will be interesting to see what sort of real range the upcoming Tesla Model 3 has (the first Tesla aimed at a more mass market car)
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