You could say the job turned out to take far longer/parts cost more than you estimated when asking for payment. But then say as a goodwill gesture you'll stick to the quote. ;-)
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OT; I feel slightly guilty.....
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no we weren't.
We were up as those who did pay late paid us more than we used to get.
the cost of running a trading overdraft aint cheap..
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My experience was that Sikhs love to haggle too. But once the price is agreed, it's the price.
Muslims and Hindus ... my Dad developed a trick where he'd accept the five or ten pound under that they offered. Then when they tried to come back, he'd remind them of it, and put it in the quote. When my brother queried this, he just said it was worth a fiver to get rid of customers like that.
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I think it's something to do with the historical sanctity of "the word" amo ngst the Judaeo/Christian cultures; "In the beginning was the word...", "My word is my bond" etc...
It may now be archaic, but the whole legal framework is based upon it.
Contract law covers everything from buying a box of matches to building a s atellite and all depends on the word, the promises, of both parties; that t hey'll deliver the specified goods/services and deliver the specified monie s.
The Hindu/ Moslem lot don't do that. They think they're being clever and d on't anticipate that they will only damage their reputation as a group.
It might be described as prejudice, but it isn't. It is judging a risk, b ased on prior experience.
It's postjudice; that's a greatly underused word.
To help your guilty conscience, I'll take it off your hands. I was ripped off for £20 by one of that lot, I'm sure it was the same b loke. They all look the same to me, etc..
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I take it you've never bought a house in England in a busy market? Any verbal agreement between buyer and seller means f**k all.
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Lemme guess, you don't remember much about RE from school?
Here's a clue: "The Moslem lot" are also part of "Judeo-Christian culture".
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True, but AIUI, it's the only sphere in which a verbal contract is worthless.
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Are you certain about that? If so, it seems very strange that the single most important purchase most make isn't protected while trivial things are.
I've got a mate who's been 'gazumped' three times in about as many months. Once by a cash buyer for a lower sum. Has cost him a fortune in surveys, etc. He's now attempting to buy new 'off plan' in the hope it won't happen again.
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If he is double the price of others, I'd guess he'll not get the work anyway. ;-)
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you'd be suprised how many accept the quote then won't pay up or ask for ex tra work to be done without charge, so he knows he can agree to 'lose' a ce rtain amount haggling and from that he can get an impression as to whether they'll pay up or not at the end of the job.
His best customers tend to be gay couples of either sex.
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In London?
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The point with buying houses in England is that you don't have a contract until you have exchanged contracts (sic). How many buyers would really want that initial offer and acceptance to bind them so eg they can't walk away if eg the survey shows problems or the mortgage offer falls through?
Things are different in Scotland of course - arguably better overall but
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And in the US of A, too, although its over 30 years since I was buying/selling. There, you proceed to contract at the *start* of the process, rather than at the end, so gazumping etc doesn't exist.
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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)" writes
Wouldn't cut any ice with me - you're problem if you got the estimate wrong.
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Yup - SE area.
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Suppose the next job is ten times as big?
A 10% Off voucher might end up costing you a lot.
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If one wasn't so emotionally involved in purchasing, I would have no compassion for the vendor and say I would match their price.
Then sit on the purchase and do nothing.
If the vendor becomes anxious because they might no longer be able to purchase their house of their dreams I would offer the original price that was first accepted.
For info, my word is good, but when the acceptance of my offer becomes bad, any further offer of mine is given in the same manner.
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On Wednesday 29 January 2014 14:30 Dave Plowman (News) wrote in uk.d-i- y:
In England (and Wales I assumed) I don't think anything is binding until exchange of contracts.
Unlucky.
Or move to Scotland - I do believe their process is rather different.
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On Wednesday 29 January 2014 15:50 Tim Streater wrote in uk.d-i-y:
What are the provisions if a legal search or survey shows up something hairy?
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On Wednesday 29 January 2014 15:03 mogga wrote in uk.d-i-y:
Quite possibly - there's lots of stuff being redeveloped. Off plan could include a full site refurbishment and repurposing, eg old warehouse or wharfage buildings being converted to flats -