OT: I despair take 3

[Mr Fuxit]

Why not?

[Nightjar]

On 30/04/2014 13:34, fred wrote: ...

I would have expected the Peter Dawson version to be better known.

Colin Bignell

[Nightjar]

WW2 would almost have been current affairs then though :-)

Colin Bignell

[newshound]

Nah, real socialists know he wasn't "One of us"

[whisky-dave]

Perhaps they should make clearer signs.

also is the apostrphe in the right place for "Nelson's County" ?

never aim sure about that.

And with quite a bit of history the facts change, even with relatively recent history.

Look at what happened in History at hilsborough and then what actually happens and compare that to what was written at the time. TYhe theres what came out about maggie thatcher and teh number of pits that wre to be closed, no suprise to me that she lied but how many polititions are lying today because they know they won't be found out in their lifetime if at all.

The there's the jimmy saville case how many people condsidered him a national hero or just a good person.

How many of us have had to remmeber the so called fact that Christipher colombus discovered america, how mnay people have gained qualifications because they could rememebr such facts.

Or that God created the Earth in 7 days or whatever.....

[whisky-dave]

Are they more or less ignorant than they should be.

I didn't know Baden powell and Lewis carol were paedophiles, I was told to admire and respect them.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Perhaps she lived in Merton?

[whisky-dave]

I know them lyrics from "Hit me with my rythum stick" by Ian dury and the blockheads .

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Absolutely. All those Labour voting city types.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Quite right too. Lets get back to the one who really caused all the problems - Thatcher.

[harryagain]

Thatcher rescued us from the previous socialist scumbag cockup. Don't try to rewrite histiry. Everywhere socialist is implemented, it ends in disaster. Venezuela is just the latest.

[Big Les Wade]

"Dave Plowman (News)" posted

Why - is Merton especially known for its poor educational standards?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Like you're trying to do?

And the recent worst recession in history was caused by socialism?

Don't try and rewrite histiry.

[Tim Streater]

Certainly in Venezuela it is.

[The Natural Philosopher]

To be fair lets say that Socialism with its entrenched ideology and its fundamental centralism is incapable of meeting the challenges of a rapidly moving world.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

No entrenched ideology is capable of meeting the needs of a changing world. Including so called capitalism.

It may have escaped your notice that China will likely overtake the US as the largest economy in the world. And I doubt it calls itself a capitalist society.

[The Natural Philosopher]

What it calls itself and what it is, are two entirely different things. China is by any definition a capitalist society.

[harryagain]

Certainly was. CALLED NU LABOUR. Thought they had found the fabled socialist free money tree (ie the banksters)

Where you can buy votes by handing out money you get for nothing or steal. Failed to regulate the banks. Incurred massive debts. Buggered up the pension system. Sold our gold off cheap. Involved us in an illegal war based on non-existent WMDs. Fucked up our society with mass immigration (more socialist votes they hoped) Buggered up the NHS Buggered up our education system. Where you let the idle sit on their arses.

NO MORE TORY BOOM AND BUST

Forgotten already d*****ad?

[harryagain]

Lets tell the truth and say it failed wherever it's been tryed.

Tell me of a socialist sucess story?

[harryagain]

They have abandoned socialism. They are just another dictatorship.