OT: Highways, Hedges and Police.

I live in a small terrace of houses in a rural village. We are a micro- community of people of modest means, surrounded by wealthy landowners. Opposite us, across the narrow lane, is a stone wall which has been neglected. A substantial hedge has grown in front of the wall in the verge. The hedge puts us all into darkness in the evening, reaching a height of over 8 metres, about 3 metres from our front doors/windows . The original wall is only about 2 metres high. The land owner will not trim the top of the hedge because he hates us (we objected to a planning application). The council won't touch the hedge because they say it is his responsibility, even though it is clearly on the verge and not on his property (the wall still exists behind the hedge).

Somebody trimmed the hedge. It is now about 6 metres high, much neater, and the increase in natural light in the evening is fantastic! It would be much better if it was 2 metres high! I got a visit from the police accusing me of trimming the hedge! The landowner called the police when he discovered the hedge had been neatened up a bit, naming me as the main suspect. I know for sure he has no evidence because it wasn't me. Nevertheless the police officer informed me that if I even considered trimming the hedge in the future, I would be in trouble, and that he had been asked to pass that message on to me by the landowner. I informed him that I had considered trimming it in the past, and that I had also planted some daffodils in the verge.

I am now feeling quite irritated, and will definitely set aside an afternoon a year to trimming that hedge in the future. Being irritated, I googled "right to light" and it seems that we might have a case. Do we have a right to light?

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tom.harrigan
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Isn't trimming an 8 metre hedge down to 6 metres a serious proposition? Do you mean 8ft/6ft?

Reply to
Clive George

He has a right to light no matter how high the damned thing is. He also has a right to buy weed killer though he must take care not to spill it where it will do most good when no one is looking.

I was watching the cops on TV earlier. Bunch of lamentable retards mostly, doing the best they can with a thankless job. Ordering people about without a legal case for doing so.

If you are a passenger in a car for example and the one plod to pull you over is outnumbered, he doesn't have the right to order you where to sit or stand. And he can't order you to open or close a car door.

But nobody seems to be taking the so and so's on about that.

Getting back to the topic, the "right to light" defaults after so many years of allowing it to go unchallenged.

Take the fat kontroler to court and get him to strip the fence down then weed killer it for good measure. No! I mean not weed killer it for good measure when no one's looking or not.

(Sorry about that error, it's late.)

You have to issue a writ or a tort or something. Check out uk.legal but beware the free advice, it is often worth what it costs. Also issue one to the council and wake the fat kontroler's friends up.

Reply to
Weatherlawyer

Some rabbits might like to live in that verge: a bit of snow, then all the bushes get ringbarked...

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Reply to
spamlet

Is there something wrong with the way your newsreader is set up?

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Weatherlawyer

uk.legal uk.legal.moderated

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Reply to
fred

Tom,

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Me Here

There is no requirement for a wall to be built on the property boundary nor is a verge necessarily part of the highway, so they could be right. Neverheless, the LA do have a requirement to act as an adjudicator in complaints about over-high hedges, although that is a chargable service.

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That is not something that can be answered on a news group. It requires someone with specialist knowledge to assess the site and whether the amount of light you get with the hedge in place sufficient 'according to the ordinary notions of mankind', which may not be the same as your notions. I suggest telephoning around local surveyors, to see if there is one who can advise you of who would be able to do that.

Colin Bignell

Reply to
Nightjar

I'd be very careful with my weed killer if I were me. And look out for spies and spy ware.

Reply to
Weatherlawyer

That is certainly the case with my sister's neighbour.

Their plot lies between two roads and they have reversed the usage, such that what was the entrance, is now the back. Despite erecting a fence about 6 foot from the road, they still own the verge which they refuse to maintain. The Council have reluctantly trimmed it back on one occasion, but it is a regular source of dispute.

Andy C

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Andy Cap

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The wall does not necessarily mark the edge of his property .

Just because you know you did not do it does not mean that there is no evidence suggesting that you did.

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I suggest that you write to the Chief Constable asking him to explain this behaviour.

Not an easy question. Try uk.legal.moderated or, probably better at this stage, a solicitor.

Reply to
Fergus O'Rourke

No. Don't underestimate the damage done by discarded cigarette ends. Don't discard cigarette ends during nesting season.

Reply to
dennis

mmmmmm wtf?!

you a no-win-no-fee "specialist" perchance?

JimK

Reply to
JimK

black clothes, balaclava, weekend "away", moonless night, plenty sodium chlorate is what some would consider rightly or wrongly...or just spend years and thousands arguning with the wan**r...(which is what he *wants* you to decide you don't want to do....

Cheers JimK

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JimK

tom.harrigan wibbled on Friday 09 April 2010 02:12

There was recent (few years) legislation regarding overly high hedges - try GardenLaw. If you can find that, you may be able to force the council to act.

Reply to
Tim Watts

Small remote controlled robot fitted wirh an angle grinder?

Reply to
Matty F

I have posted my comments on uk.legal.moderated

Reply to
Invisible Man

I think someone accidentally spilled a couple of tubs of granules of sodium chlorate granules at the base of a similar hedge where I once lived in similar circumstances. The trees/hedge mysteriously died and there was light once more. ;-)

Reply to
David in Normandy

Such spillages are a thing of the past, since the sale of sodium chlorate was banned on 9th May 2009 and storage and use is banned as of the 9th May

2010.

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you have a large stock of it, right next to the lightbulbs.

Reply to
Huge

That's terrible! What are the kids going to use to make fireworks with now? It's still on sale here in France, which doesn't help in the UK of course.

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David in Normandy

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