[OT] Hatton Garden diamond heist

[harryagain]

Easy. And the tool could be home made.

They would need lots of oxygen.

But no material is proof against the thermal lance. Cuts steel and concrete like butter

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[harryagain]

There is a theory that they started amajor fire which disabled the alarm system.

[Tim Watts]

"Police say the gang used a specialist Hilti DD350 diamond coring drill to bore holes through the concrete walls of the vault before breaking in and forcing open safety deposit boxes."

I am sure that won't do Hilti's name any harm. Wasn't it a Hilti nail gun when they tried to nick the crown jewels from a reinforced glass case at the Millenium Dome?

New adverts?

"Hilti - for when you really can't afford to be let down"

"Discerning criminals who use Hilti get the swag"

[Andy Burns]

Someone on the radio yesterday (from some-or-other secure storage association) claimed they'd cut through 16" of steel to get in, which sounded a little implausible ...

[Tim Watts]

I'm still dubious about "2m of concrete".

I would have thought a diamond chainsaw would have been more useful.

[Davey]

A bit like Clyde Barrow, of Bonnie and Clyde, praising Ford's V8 cars because they never let him down when on the run from the law (maybe).

[Chris French]

There seem to be a lot of tales floating around about it, but the actual hard info about what they actually did seems to be lacking at the moment.

As someone else in the industry was quoted as saying (somewhere or other) once, pouring f*ck off thick amount of conrete and f*ck off vault doors etc. was really enough. But nowadays people can cut through the concrete or whatever. The key question lies over their security and alarms system.

[Chris Hogg]

Which was switched off, apparently, the vault having just had a new alarm fitted that hadn't yet been commissioned, or some such. Sounds like someone knew...

[Tim Watts]

How can that even happen?

OK boss, the new alarm's going in just before Easter and the old one is out. We'll get it set up after a 4 day closure when the vaults are extra full of goodies.

Oh and we'll pay someone from MallGuards-R-Us on minimum wage to wiggle the doors in the bell goes off.

And we've got noone looking at any CCTV feeds from inside.

It's sounds either highly unlikely or a cockup of such monumental proportions it will forever go down in the annals of history.

I would not like to be the bloke in charge if any of the nicked boxes belonged to some "more interesting" customers...

[Capitol]

The alarm went off and was ignored.

[michael adams]

Such as a lack of any CC TV inside the vault. The security guard only ever checked the outside to make sure it was still locked and that nobody had blown a hole in the door.

There was even an episode of the "Sweeney" from the early

70's which featured CCTV in a bank vault. The robbers recorded footage of nothing happening on an early VCR and then tapped into the CCTV circuit and played the footage to fool the guards watching the screen. Something like that anyway.

michael adams

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[Jethro_uk]

Not sure about that, but there was a film where a box with a photo of the scene the CCTV covered was placed over the camera. CCTV cameras being notorious for their infinite depth of field.

Derren Brown used a similar trick to mask the area of interest in his art heist last year.

[LumpHammer]

The Wire taught us that Hilti nailguns are great for sealing up vacant properties after concealing bodies inside.

[Chris Hogg]

Any number of conflicting reports here

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[Nightjar]

According to the BBC web site, they left an angle grinder behind.

[The Medway Handyman]

I must pop back for that.

Oh bugger!

[Sam Plusnet]

If I ran one of these vaults, or had enough stuff to be worth keeping in one, I'd be much happier if nobody broadcast details of what they're made of.

Don't want to make things easier for the next lot.

[Adrian]

Whoever runs/ran this vault is not going to be in business by the time the next lot come along.

[Chris Hogg]

And a fair weight of lances. They burn away quite quickly. That wiki article says a lance burns away in a few minutes. The paragraph on 'Popular Misconceptions' is relevant.

Agreed, and with lots of red hot molten 'lava' splattering everywhere. In 1968, when the Longships lighthouse, off Lands End, was being refurbished, they used lances to melt holes through the granite blocks for electric cables.

and move the pictures down a bit.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Wasn't it broken into before too?