OT; Groan

I pay my PLI monthly, about £10. Got the renewal with a form to sign for the credit agreement saying I could sign it online.

Went online, entered the agreement number DXXXXXXCTO, got an error message - no details - just an error message.

Called them, went through 5 stages of "press 1 for, press 2 for" each with at least 4 options. Finally got to speak to a human.

"Oh, this happens all the time" she said. "The number ends in CT Zero, not CT (letter O)."

The mind boggles........

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The Medway Handyman
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Yep, that's online governance. Try employing one or two or more people. I had to employ a part timer to manage the hassle. Light bulb moment~ do I need this crap, I'm well past retirement age? Paid off the staff and am in process of winding the firm down. Nick.

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Nick

"Nick" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net:

Well done.

I had a similar revelation when Gordon Brown introduced IR35 and wanted me to pay tax on a significant proportion of my business expenses.

After reviewing my finances I decided that I didn't really need the aggravation and gave it all up, I was 42.

Life has never been better.

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Peter Burke

Good Lord, change the font, people! Wasn't this problem solved in the

1970s?
Reply to
505 Meat Eater

Oh how I hate those "prove you are human" CAPTCHA forms that can't be bothered to make it clear if they are using 0 or O or I, l or 1.

It's sometimes hard enough working out what some of the corrupted letters are without having to guess between options that look the same in plain font.

tim

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tim.....

I get daily passwords emailed to my phone from work.

The displayed font makes 0oO (zero, lower and upper case O) easy to distinguish, the problem I have is with 1Il (One, upper case I lower case L) which all look identical. Also j&J look almost the same with the font used.

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Graham.

Given that those passwords are presumably computer-generated in some random fashion, it beggars belief that the algorithm doesn't simply discard any result containing any of 0O1Il. I mean, writing a password-generator like that presumably requires some intelligence, so why don't they actually use that intelligence?

[sigh]
Reply to
Mike Barnes

*applause*
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Huge

I remember when zeros had a diagonal line through them - it would be a good idea to adopt that where it matters.

I suppose some people would think that it was an O which had been crossed out and ignore it.

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Judith

I read in the news yesterday : "The report?s author, Dr Blll Kirkup"

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Judith

It would be relatively easy to trap that particular error and suggest trying it with 0 at the end I'd have thought? Brian

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Brian Gaff

Or even have the other end swap the offending trailing O for a 0.

It isn't like it is a password. It is a common problem.

I don't understand why people mix alphanumerics with ambiguities in reference numbers - it guarantees that users get frustrated!

The thing that really annoys me is when software comes with a high entropy activation codes with multiple ambiguities in a 4pt font.

0OQ 1lI 5S 8B

Being all hard to distinguish and requiring an eyeglass to see!

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Martin Brown

In message , Brian Gaff writes

Long way back now but when they were trying to teach me to write basic software zeroes had a diagonal bar.

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Tim Lamb

And Z had a horizontal bar to distinguish it from 2.

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Capitol

I did that once for similar reasons... I think it's called (variations of) "lineprinter font".

Reply to
Tim Watts

I still do that.

I have seen an opposite convention (letter O with a line through) so there is room for confusion! I don't really care as I only do it for my later benefit.

Reply to
Bob Eager

I used it when filling in coding sheets for having cards punched.

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Bob Eager

Seems to be exactly the case here - I'm reading this in Thunderbird/Windows/Default Font and the 0's do have a diagonal line through them but the O's don't.

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CB

Well that reduces the number of options. Plus as an example an easy way of remmebring some passwords is to use numbers where letters would be. when ever there's a o in the word use a 0 (ZERO) and L (use ONE).

they tried using AI but it came out as A1 ;-)

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whisky-dave

Like amazon you mean their ASIN numbers. I get hand written order forms with l1Lo0O and 2 look like S's there's only a certain amount I substitute before giving up.

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whisky-dave

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